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The reality of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and South Africa is very sad
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:22 pm
This whole deal with South Africa piqued my interest and caused me to do some research on the history of the region. My previous flawed perception was that whites within the last 100 years or so came in and ran roughshot over peaceful, established, black dwelling places by conquest or swindling blacks out of land.
Reality paints a much different picture...
Whites arrived in the 17th century. They did purchase land and did take land by conquest...exactly like what happened in America. The blacks in the region...also took land from each other. The Bantu expanded south from central Africa, conquering and absorbing other African peoples in the process...they were not any more native than the Dutch or British.
Like all of human history, land is subject to being taken by force and must be defended. The reality is that whites were well established in South Africa for centuries. They may have taken or purchased land from native Africans...but that land had been taken from its previous owners...and previous owners before that.
Whites set up prosperous countries and territories that, particularly in modern times, highly benefited the black population. The truth is that Communists infiltrated and armed those that took land that had belonged to whites for generations in Rhodesia while the UN sanctioned them to the point that they could not supply themselves adequately. Mugabe was a terrorist and a Communist and ran the region into the ground after expelling the white population.
Mandela was also a Communist and the black takeover of the South African government is leading the same kind of disaster that befell Zimbabwe. Whats sad is that the west turned a blind eye and even aided and abetted those who were only capable of tearing down what was once a great place.
Reality paints a much different picture...
Whites arrived in the 17th century. They did purchase land and did take land by conquest...exactly like what happened in America. The blacks in the region...also took land from each other. The Bantu expanded south from central Africa, conquering and absorbing other African peoples in the process...they were not any more native than the Dutch or British.
Like all of human history, land is subject to being taken by force and must be defended. The reality is that whites were well established in South Africa for centuries. They may have taken or purchased land from native Africans...but that land had been taken from its previous owners...and previous owners before that.
Whites set up prosperous countries and territories that, particularly in modern times, highly benefited the black population. The truth is that Communists infiltrated and armed those that took land that had belonged to whites for generations in Rhodesia while the UN sanctioned them to the point that they could not supply themselves adequately. Mugabe was a terrorist and a Communist and ran the region into the ground after expelling the white population.
Mandela was also a Communist and the black takeover of the South African government is leading the same kind of disaster that befell Zimbabwe. Whats sad is that the west turned a blind eye and even aided and abetted those who were only capable of tearing down what was once a great place.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:26 pm to bamafan1001
Yes, much of Africa is unstable. But the solutions have to come from within. You can’t just send them some more white people.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:27 pm to bamafan1001
There are no good guys in this kind of shite
But there are better guys
and they're about to be gone
But there are better guys
and they're about to be gone
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:27 pm to TBoy
That is actually wrong
Africa’s biggest problem is leaders who do not want any foreign investment in their nations
Africa’s biggest problem is leaders who do not want any foreign investment in their nations
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:28 pm to bamafan1001
Apartheid (South African English: /?'p??rte?d/; Afrikaans: [a'part??it], lit. "separateness") was a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa from 1948 until the early 1990s.[note 1] Apartheid was characterised by an authoritarian political culture based on baasskap (or white supremacy), which encouraged state repression of Black African, Coloured, and Asian South Africans for the benefit of the nation's minority white population.[4] The economic legacy and social effects of apartheid continue to the present day.[5][6][7]
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:31 pm to asurob1
Simplistic response and you know this.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:31 pm to bamafan1001
I posted before that I have a good friend who was born in SA, emigrated to the US many years ago. Most of his family still live there and have owned and farmed the same land for many generations. They live in terror and have to sleep behind fireproof metal doors.
They are trying to leave but the government will not give them anything for their land.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:32 pm to bamafan1001
It’s a little weird how trumpkins suddenly developed a concern for the internal politics of South Africa
Someone must have blown the dog whistle
Someone must have blown the dog whistle
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:36 pm to asurob1
quote:
Apartheid (South African English: /?'p??rte?d/; Afrikaans: [a'part??it], lit. "separateness") was a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa from 1948 until the early 1990s.[note 1] Apartheid was characterised by an authoritarian political culture based on baasskap (or white supremacy), which encouraged state repression of Black African, Coloured, and Asian South Africans for the benefit of the nation's minority white population.[4] The economic legacy and social effects of apartheid continue to the present day.[5][6][7]
So that makes this sensible
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:36 pm to bamafan1001
quote:Why don't people understand this about Am Indians? Instead we get shmaltz about the eternally exploited "Native Americans"
The blacks in the region...also took land from each other. The Bantu expanded south from central Africa, conquering and absorbing other African peoples in the process...they were not any more native than the Dutch or British.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:37 pm to TBoy
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Yes, much of Africa is unstable.
To be fair, the non-African world has periods of instability. Chaos theory seems to be on display more often and more consistently there than any other continent.
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But the solutions have to come from within.
You mean the competent white people that, for centuries, were in Rhodesia and are hanging on in South Africa currently?
quote:
ou can’t just send them some more white people.
So, Africa only for black Africans? Got it.
Just one more question: Why is diversity a good thing only if that means not white people?
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:40 pm to bamafan1001
They shouldn't get a damn penny of aid when they are starving in 10 years
Posted on 8/24/18 at 11:10 pm to jlnoles79
Lol they’ll be starving much sooner than 10 years from now.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Zimbabwe does and they are trying to recruit white farmers to come back. Why any would go back, I have no idea.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:32 am to asurob1
Don't you let Africans colonize your wife?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:16 am to NIH
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Don't you let Africans colonize your wife?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:57 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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do not want any foreign investment in their nations
except China
Posted on 8/25/18 at 4:07 am to TrueTiger
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Like all of human history, land is subject to being taken by force and must be defended
This is all that matters and describes both the past and present in many ways
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