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re: The reality of amnesty for laborers

Posted on 7/21/26 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1153 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 3:49 pm to
This is the 21st century, and we still install roofs using 17th century methods, except for the pneumatic nail gun.

It is high time that products were developed that would allow for automated installation, or perhaps factory installation on penalized products. They could probably even meet that 200 mph wind code and wouldn't be as constrained by factors such as weight.

Robots and automation show up for work every day too.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
639 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 3:53 pm to
58% of white Americans have a bachelors degree. That means at least 8% of those have below average IQs. ?? We have way too many degreed space eaters
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22990 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 3:56 pm to
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This is the answer. I'm in construction. Mexicans are worth multiple white or black laborers. For the "pay moar money people", our company has almost double laborer pay since covid, yet the workforce is more useless than ever. Guys...they are useless. It's unsustainable

How about the construction industry figuring its shite out? Just because construction struggles to hire, train and retain good American workers doesn't mean the rest of us are compelled to subsidize those businesses through illegal immigration.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32249 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:06 pm to
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The problem we have is there are many illegals here that don’t work. The dems have given them Medicaid, Snap benefits, and allowed many to commit fraud within these programs. I have no problem with the illegals that come here, obey our laws, and actually work but we have to make these workers that are working here pay taxes.
Some take Medicaid/Snap, ridiculously low housing/rent, then go out and make bank working cash jobs, they pay no income taxes and then turn around and send a huge portion of those wages back to their homeland in the form of remittances. We need to require ridiculous remittance fees on those funds, like 50-75% remittance fees would slow down those US dollars pouring into Mexico, etc.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26587 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:11 pm to
Ah, you’re saying the illegals are not here in good faith.

I am talking about debating the issue of labor shortages and pathways for temporary permits in good faith.

I agree that amnesty is not a good solution, and I would push back on the app using that terminology. Bringing illegals out of the shadows with TEMPORARY work permits is a different thing.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32249 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:23 pm to
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58% of white Americans have a bachelors degree. That means at least 8% of those have below average IQs. ?? We have way too many degreed space eaters
Now let's see what the current student loan debt looks like.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28555 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 4:43 pm to
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The reality of amnesty for laborers


Temporary work VISAs are fine, so long as we see a need and see the need can't be met.

Amnesty?

Get the frick out of here. Their kids or grandchildren will have grown up in the exact same environment as American children and have the same work ethic.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1861 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 5:07 pm to
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had a room to myself and was paid more


And you flew home on weekends and had meals and other expenses paid
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103549 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 6:37 pm to
What little I’ve been around them working, they do put forth a lot of effort but they lack problem solving capability and that becomes an issue when trying to explain how to address the problem due to language barrier

I don’t have immigrant labor. I have only American workers, 3 black men and one white. Good family men who are reliable and work hard and I pay them well for it
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103549 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 6:52 pm to
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because we would have removed 30 to 40 million consumers who are living off the American taxpayer from the system. Same applies to chicken, beef, eggs, etc. We won't need as much which will drive down the price.


True but it would also cause a massive recession as many farms and businesses would fold as prices plummet. Possibly so many would go under that there would be a supply shortage leading back to inflation then it would level out to normal as production would start to increase.

Not saying we shouldn’t deport the illegals, just pointing out we let it get so bad that it will cause some economic pain
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17213 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:07 pm to
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Remittances from the USA, using fintech solutions are expected to reach a transaction value of $29.92 billion in 2024


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Remittances to Honduras reached 1,143.67 USD million in May 2026, up from 1,089.53 USD million in April 2026
That's mostly from Kenner, brah.


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India: about $129 billion in remittance inflows, 37.8 billion from the US(2024 est.)
Mexico: about $68 billion in remittance inflows 62.5 billion from the US (2024 est.)
Philippines: about $40 billion in remittance inflows, no US specific numbers (2024 est.)

Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
12052 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:12 pm to
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quality of work.


Had me until here...
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6825 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:24 pm to
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1. remove blueberry pickers paid at x
2. hire american blueberry pickers paid at x+5
3. reduced efficiency
4. blueberry prices go up because of labor cost increase and shorter supply

repeat for huge sectors of goods


Reality

Food is cheaper in many, if not most other countries and none of them believe they need cheap, illegal labor
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17213 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:38 pm to
A 400g can of Chickpeas at Tesco Express is 41 pence.
Red peppers are 49p ea, which is cheaper than I can get at H-E-B.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 7:40 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61253 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:48 pm to
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Case in point: I had some flooring done recently. American guy said it was a 3-day job. We scheduled him, but then he flaked out, wouldn’t come out to the job for one reason and then another. Finally got fed up, contacted a Mexican guy Friday night, him and one other dude showed up the next Monday morning, they did the job in one day, and they did a great job. We paid them the same as the American dude was going to get.
if you were paying more the white would have showed up
Posted by tigersandsaints
Member since Dec 2005
10625 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by Arktigers
Member since Sep 2022
990 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 7:58 pm to
My opinion, I would say most aren’t against immigration. But there is a process. Unfortunately, the process wasn’t enforced and we are dealing with the aftermath. Unfortunate for those impacted and those enforcing.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
247 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:12 pm to
Because they came here illegally?
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5833 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:32 pm to
How do you feel about HB1's?


Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17213 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:33 pm to
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How do you feel about HB1's?
There are multiple visas, classed under LCAs, which have taken 803k jobs in Texas alone in since 2015.

The premise that "laborers" are somehow noble is directly in conflict with the Jew hate (pyramids, etc). Interesting.
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