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re: The price on this Economy IS NOT WORTH it @ this death rate- Sorry
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:27 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:27 pm to Covingtontiger77
Nobody is talking about this, but it's true.
At some point - sooner rather than later - we have to go back to normal You can't hit the pause button on commerce and social interaction for too long. Civilization will collapse.
Talked to a friend yesterday and they are laying off 40,000 employees - that's 50% of their workforce. 10 million people could be new applicants to the unemployment claims before we are done with this "wash your hands / stay inside" campaign.
We are going to have to come up with a plan B fast. Because telling the small percentage of people who can do their jobs on a laptop at home while everyone else eats a sh*t sandwhich and waits for a $1000 gov check is not going to work for long. I'm one of the guys with a laptop and I know my days are numbered because everyone else will soon be out of work.
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:28 pm to gthog61
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If the economy collapses for good then society collapses then their "self-preservation" better involve being a good shot.
Why are all the fear? I've seen you talk a lot about this. Is this a serious concern you have?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:29 pm to SickGainzLP
Because you either don’t know shite or you’re embarrassed by how big the number is. I’ll let you decide which.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:30 pm to LSUconvert
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Why are all the fear?
Mortality goes up with increases in unemployment. This isn’t a zero sum game.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:32 pm to colgatiger89
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those of you who would prefer Italy's situation, why don't you check and see how things are going in their economy these days....
That's because they are shut down just like we are. We are talking about the opposite of that.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:32 pm to the808bass
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Mortality goes up with increases in unemployment.
That's true.. I'm not sure how that could mean we're close to society collapsing.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:32 pm to the808bass
Two options. Economic collapse with minimal sickness/death. Or economic collapse with everyone getting sick, overwhelmed hospitals and millions dying to a new age Spanish flu (even with the low death rate the infection rate is way too high).
Pandemics aren't just something that affects third world countries. Sacrifices have to be made.
Pandemics aren't just something that affects third world countries. Sacrifices have to be made.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:32 pm to the808bass
Ok guy. If you think that proves whatever the hell you are getting at then do you my dude.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:33 pm to LSUconvert
100,000 people filed for unemployment...
In Ohio...
In 4 days.
Now see what that looks like exponentially.
In Ohio...
In 4 days.
Now see what that looks like exponentially.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:34 pm to LSUconvert
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That's true.. I'm not sure how that could mean we're close to society collapsing.
Getting closer by the day. I'd argue this is the closest to societal collapse since the civil war
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:34 pm to Redleg Guy
quote:That doesn't answer my question
How much is your life worth? People believe in self preservation above almost everything.
Also, since you mention self preservation.
People also REALLLLLLY suck at assessing risk. For example. If I told you that bankrupting YOURSELF for 10 years would eliminate your current risk of dying of the coronavirus, would you take that?
Cause. I mean. If you would, you'd be an idiot. And yet, yeah. Pissloads of Americans WOULD!
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:35 pm to SportTiger1
Let's go with Italy as an analogous estimation technique.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:35 pm to DawgHorns
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Two options. Economic collapse with minimal sickness/death. Or economic collapse with everyone getting sick, overwhelmed hospitals and millions dying to a new age Spanish flu (even with the low death rate the infection rate is way too high). Pandemics aren't just something that affects third world countries. Sacrifices have to be made.
Because you read a meme that makes it so?
You do understand that the sheltering in place is not theorized to decrease the number of infections, right? It’s just spreading them out. We aren’t saving lives except by avoiding overwhelming a system we are nowhere near overwhelming.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:35 pm to Covingtontiger77
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The price on this Economy IS NOT WORTH it @ this death rate- Sorry by Covingtontiger77
If a gen x comes into your coffee shop with a bat with a Chinese tattoo that says on his shoulder and
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Our state and federal government officials have horribly over reacted in an attempt to control this virus. The subsequent financial pain and financial disaster will be infinitely worse than the virus itself. There is a need for the medical and business communities to step forward and speak this truth.
We experience sicknesses in the form of the flu and viruses every year but have not shut our economy down and destroyed our financial institutions and businesses. Why now?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:36 pm to DawgHorns
You are making shite up, just stop. Most people don't even have symptoms, very few even know they have it.
The hospitals don't help, the vast majority of the people that need hospital care die... the ones that need vents are dying 95% of the time.
The hospital isn't overwhelmed, they're morgues.
The hospitals don't help, the vast majority of the people that need hospital care die... the ones that need vents are dying 95% of the time.
The hospital isn't overwhelmed, they're morgues.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:37 pm to 88Wildcat
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Live free or Die
My ancestors helped found this country based on our right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I fought communists in a war to defend those rights. Note that it’s not “happiness”, but the right to try to achieve it. What is “Life” worth if you don’t have a right to the other two things. Life is worth nothing to any thinking American who is heir to 1776 without the other two rights. As of now, your right to Liberty and your Pursuit of Happiness are being curtailed. This bullshite had better stop soon.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:39 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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The hospitals don't help, the vast majority of the people that need hospital care die... the ones that need vents are dying 95% of the time.
I’ve seen ~50% Mortality on pts on a vent. If it’s 95% (which I doubt), we probably just start having goals of care discussions with medical powers of attorney.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:40 pm to Covingtontiger77
Hopefully at the end of this 15 day thing Trump did we just start to open this shite back up.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:41 pm to 88Wildcat
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I would rather be a country that has tens of thousands of people die from this disease this year than be a country that has hundreds of thousands of people die in the coming years from the economy falling off of a cliff for a decade.
I want to be a country that pauses things for a month, gets a handle on this the right way and then moves forward prepared for whatever happens next.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 7:41 pm to SickGainzLP
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Let's go with Italy as an analogous estimation technique
Okay then
So adapt their number for our population and you have what, 20k deaths?
Let's look at all the other ways people die from infection and if the work stops in hopes to keep them alive?
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