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re: The price on this Economy IS NOT WORTH it @ this death rate- Sorry
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:47 pm to SickGainzLP
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:47 pm to SickGainzLP
quote:
e you understand. The issue is not the death rate WITH the mitigations. The issue is what will happen if we don't take these steps you are complaining about.
The number you need to look at is the percent of people who require intensive care to survive and recover. That number is astronomical. If the ICUs get overwhe
Get the hell out of here with such nonsense.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:49 pm to Covingtontiger77
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I can now say that I can put a price on a human life.
Oh OK......if you catch it I'm sure you want mind if we say frick it.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:50 pm to SickGainzLP
I am not sure you understand. No one knows at this point what the mortality will be.
The numbers, as I interpret them, will result in covid-19 being a little less "transmisible" (r0 or reproduction number) than the flu. That number was lower in China 1 week after travel bans*. The flu is facing the same mitigation with vaccines available. If mortality for covid is less than the flu, this will be overkill on a large scale. That will be the final proof that no one can argue with.
Lancet (legit med journal) r0 from China
r0 for flu=2.4. Covid in China was 1.03.
The numbers, as I interpret them, will result in covid-19 being a little less "transmisible" (r0 or reproduction number) than the flu. That number was lower in China 1 week after travel bans*. The flu is facing the same mitigation with vaccines available. If mortality for covid is less than the flu, this will be overkill on a large scale. That will be the final proof that no one can argue with.
Lancet (legit med journal) r0 from China
quote:
We estimated that the median daily reproduction number (Rt) in Wuhan declined from 2·35 (95% CI 1·15–4·77) 1 week before travel restrictions were introduced on Jan 23, 2020, to 1·05 (0·41–2·39) 1 week after.
r0 for flu=2.4. Covid in China was 1.03.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:51 pm to Covingtontiger77
What's the number that makes it worth it?
Second question: If we do nothing and the number hits 300,000 (that's acceptable right?) who are you willing to sacrifice from your family as part of that number?
Second question: If we do nothing and the number hits 300,000 (that's acceptable right?) who are you willing to sacrifice from your family as part of that number?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:51 pm to Aristo
I think you know good and well what decision had to be made. I'm as frustrated and concerned about the economy as you are. That doesn't change the reality though.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:52 pm to Covingtontiger77
This thread is cuckoo AF. Congrats 
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:52 pm to 88Wildcat
Panelist on Fox finally said it shutting down the economy for this UNTENABLE.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:53 pm to 14&Counting
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Oh OK......if you catch it I'm sure you want mind if we say frick it
Bro I’m ok when it’s my number.
42 healthy and strong.
If I die from this, so be it.
Got life insurance for the wife and kids.
I’d fight it. But not expect the world to stop for me.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:53 pm to BuckyCheese
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Anyone that is not ruled by emotions knows that is absolute bullshite.
I'm a very super, super emotional person .. always have been. But I work in a nursing home ... and I'm realistic about death. There are residents that have SO MUCH LIFE and enjoy doing things .. and then there are those who have zero, nil, nada, NO quality of life at all.
I just don't know at what point which side outweighs the other -- and once you've gone too far, either direction, it's hard to reverse course.
I'm likely not making any sense but this is all like living in bizarro world.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:54 pm to chillmonster
The absolute worst number is 1%, and that's hardly anything. The reaction is insane.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:57 pm to SevenLinesofPine
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The absulute worse number is 1% and that's hardly anything the reaction is insane
What's 1% if 75% of the population contracts? Have you worked that out in your head?
Italy just hit 627 deaths today, btw - and climbing. We shouldn't say this is acceptable unless we have a clear picture.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:59 pm to Covingtontiger77
i'm on the record on this board saying this virus was being played down and not treated seriously 3+ weeks ago. ate up all the little red arrow downvotes. but now i feel like we've gone WAY too far.
the only way i can reconcile this level of deliberately chosen societal collapse is if we're in some kind geopolitical financial "war" with china, russia, et all, that we'll never be privy to the details of. the damage is entirely too great otherwise. we're willing to sacrifice lives to meth, drugs, sugar, tobacco, guns, cars - you name it. but suddenly the entire western world needs to come to a screeching halt for this?
something doesn't smell right.
the only way i can reconcile this level of deliberately chosen societal collapse is if we're in some kind geopolitical financial "war" with china, russia, et all, that we'll never be privy to the details of. the damage is entirely too great otherwise. we're willing to sacrifice lives to meth, drugs, sugar, tobacco, guns, cars - you name it. but suddenly the entire western world needs to come to a screeching halt for this?
something doesn't smell right.
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:00 pm to IslandBuckeye
If the mitigation steps work then everyone will use it as "proof" that it was overkill. I work in science and technology...this way of thinking is a sign of inexperience.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:01 pm to Covingtontiger77
Everything you just said proves why it’s bigger than just a virus. Sit tight. You’ll have answers soon.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:01 pm to SickGainzLP
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If the mitigation steps work then everyone will use it as "proof" that it was overkill. I
That will be the new talking point
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:02 pm to SickGainzLP
quote:
Im not sure you understand. The issue is not the death rate WITH the mitigations. The issue is what will happen if we don't take these steps you are complaining about.
The number you need to look at is the percent of people who require intensive care to survive and recover. That number is astronomical. If the ICUs get overwhelmed you have Italy. Understand?
bullshite, the vast majority of people are dying once they get to the hospital. 95%+ are dying if they get hooked up to a vent.
The hospital isn't doing jack shite, and jack left town.
Also, some interesting comments on SK. Might be the disease is killed already... which would explain why many think they had this months ago.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:06 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Unless you’re a member of Congress. They get filthy rich off this. Sell before market collapses...buy after it tanks...then reap your rewards when it comes roaring back.
you left out the loss in savings, Stocks, and jobs
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:06 pm to DreauxB2015
We were not on a bubble!
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:06 pm to chillmonster
quote:yeah nobody wants to but if they’re old and been sick in different ways you kinda understand
who are you willing to sacrifice from your family as part of that number?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:16 pm to SickGainzLP
quote:
this way of thinking is a sign of inexperience.
Was this in reference to my post or that mitigation and "proof" of overkill?
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