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re: The Panama Canal is running dry. That's the U.S.'s fault and the U.S.'s problem

Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76504 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:02 pm to
No good. Saltwater is a bitch to everything but saltwater life
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37352 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:02 pm to
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couldn't they just design it not to use fresh water

Setting aside the astronomical amount of sea water you’d have to use, can you imagine the environmental reaction to flooding huge areas of central Panama with salt water?

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42334 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:04 pm to
No good. Saltwater is a bitch to everything but saltwater life



Lol my aquarium was hell on equipment
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:05 pm to
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No good. Saltwater is a bitch to everything but saltwater life

Once again this sounds like a Panama problem. We turned over a functioning canal system.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38363 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:07 pm to
Damn Jackie I can’t control the oceans !!!
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:12 pm to
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There are no polar bears in Antarctica.

but they are still cute
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76504 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:19 pm to
Once again this is the chinese trying to get out in front and blame the US so they don't have to pony up any money.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22285 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:21 pm to
A sea-level canal is way overdue!
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8631 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:22 pm to
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Well, let’s use our minds

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Given that both terminals are inherently at sea level, would the need for locks not indicate that the canal has to traverse a much higher elevation in the middle to get from coast to coast?

Using our minds means we understand how incredibly overstated global warming is in the first place. That’s the point I was trying to make in my own sarcastic way.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19330 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:22 pm to
If anything the locks in the canal are allowing less water to go into the oceans while this drought continues. If they were not in place the water would have escaped already
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:23 pm to
Thought ocean levels were rising due to the climatic change???
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19330 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:23 pm to
Infant- the canal has connections to 2 different oceans. Would that help ?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19330 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:26 pm to
So there is no way to back fill the void ? I here there is actual evidence of pumps that work doing something similar
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20109 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:28 pm to
So if you have two locks of different water levels, wouldn’t the water in the higher lock be pumped to the lower one? And don’t you have an ocean on both ends?

Why the hell do you need more water?
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:31 pm to
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What is it?




I refer to the 6th grade as "my senior year" and still thought of the fricking oceans of water that the Panama Canal is used to connect. I'll go out on a limb and say you are college educated.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37352 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:31 pm to
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So if you have two locks of different water levels, wouldn’t the water in the higher lock be pumped to the lower one? And don’t you have an ocean on both ends? Why the hell do you need more water?

The lake forms the center of the canal, and is something like 100 feet or more above sea level. That’s why where are locks at both ends. Ships ascend through the locks, traverse the lake, and descend on the other side.

No, pumping that amount of sea water into the peninsula isn’t feasible or sustainable.
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4453 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:32 pm to
The next Biden admin washing machine.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:32 pm to
I know nothing about dams... but
Is the water level not the same for both oceans? I assume sea level is the same everywhere with the exception of tidal changes. Why does there need to be dams and not just a channel that allows the water to flow between the two locations?

(Again I know zip about dams... its just a question)
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70507 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:33 pm to
Freshwater is much less corrosive on the equipment needed to run the canal. However, the real reasons are because it’s easier to bring water downhill from a lake 100ft above sea level than pump the ocean uphill, and that the canal is also used for agriculture irrigation.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37352 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Would that help ?

No. It still has to climb over significant terrain.

“Just make the whole thing sea level” is a really fricking dumb assessment.
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