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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 3/29/22 at 4:45 pm to Palmetto98
Posted on 3/29/22 at 4:45 pm to Palmetto98
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
The Russian ruble is at its high point against the dollar from the last 30 days, and close to its high point from the last year: substantially recovered, at least for now, from its post-invasion collapse:
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
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6h
More on the resurgence of the Russian ruble from Reuters:
"Russian rouble soars to 83 vs dollar before easing, stocks mixed"
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 4:59 pm to Palmetto98
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Yeah people don’t get that destroying the Ukrainian army is way more important and achievable than capturing Kiev. Russia captures Kiev, Ukraine just relocates its capital to the west, Russia has to tie down resources to maintain control, and etc.
Russia is redeploying its forces to try and stop the Ukies from pushing the Russians shite in. There is no way that you can spin Russia giving up its attack on Kyiv. Giving up the attack on Kyiv frees up at least 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers. Plus the roads and railways from Kyiv to the Donbass area of operation are all still intact. The Ukies can reinforce their troops faster than the Russians because they have a relatively straight shot. Russia has to withdraw to Belarus, move troops and equipment from Belarus back to Russia and then move them to the Donbas area or around the Sea of Azov, cross the Kerch Straits and through Crimea to reach the front. Those roads and railroads are already busy AF, how are the Russians going to increase the numbers of troops supported by those roads and rails and still supply them?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 6:02 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
So is this saying the Ruble is not crashing like sanctions were trying to make it do?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 6:03 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
I've seen a lot of compelling arguments that Russia's central bank has deployed almost everything it has to keep the rouble afloat.
And if it's holding in there for now, I'm eager to see what happens when future contracts start to kick in.
I'm not thinking it'll go well, but I could be wrong.
And if it's holding in there for now, I'm eager to see what happens when future contracts start to kick in.
I'm not thinking it'll go well, but I could be wrong.Posted on 3/29/22 at 6:05 pm to RuLSU
I'm starting to think more and more that this is going to hurt our economy more in the long run that Russia's
Posted on 3/29/22 at 7:15 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
The Armed Forces of Ukraine just released drone footage of a combat operation to re-take a village outside of Kharkiv in real time
They claim they captured 27 Russian soldiers in the operation. A lot of the close quarters house to house fighting was not included in the footage, as the Ukrainians lost some soldiers during the operation(KIA and WIA). You can see Russian soldiers running into the buildings when the Ukrainian artillery starts dropping, and even Ukrainian forces and their captured Russian POW's ducking as bullets fly over them from the remaining Russian defenders. There's also a Ukrainian BTR-4 shooting 30mm rounds into a school that you could see from the Ukrainian drone footage, had Russian soldiers running into it moments earlier.
They claim they captured 27 Russian soldiers in the operation. A lot of the close quarters house to house fighting was not included in the footage, as the Ukrainians lost some soldiers during the operation(KIA and WIA). You can see Russian soldiers running into the buildings when the Ukrainian artillery starts dropping, and even Ukrainian forces and their captured Russian POW's ducking as bullets fly over them from the remaining Russian defenders. There's also a Ukrainian BTR-4 shooting 30mm rounds into a school that you could see from the Ukrainian drone footage, had Russian soldiers running into it moments earlier.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 7:43 pm to TigerFanatic99
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I'm starting to think more and more that this is going to hurt our economy more in the long run that Russia's
The actions of "the adults" are having global impacts.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:51 pm to Kansas City King
Troops involved were Azov. I saw Azov patches. They claimed to have captured 26 Russians but didn't show them. Makes me wonder if this is the same outfit that has been shooting their prisoners. The film is supposedly taken at Vil'khivaka which is east of Kharkiv and the kneecap massacre took place SE of Kharkiv. This Azov outfit very well may be the one massacring prisoners.
Odd also with the comment on transport being light vehicles and cars but then later showing IFVs, tanks and what appeared to be UA forces. Makes me wonder if this is a conglomerate video from multiple engagements or a multi-unit operation.
Odd also with the comment on transport being light vehicles and cars but then later showing IFVs, tanks and what appeared to be UA forces. Makes me wonder if this is a conglomerate video from multiple engagements or a multi-unit operation.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:10 am to RuLSU
quote:. Market is only opened 4 hours a day,no short selling & foreigners ( 50% of their markets) aren't allowed to sell yet.
I've seen a lot of compelling arguments that Russia's central bank has deployed almost everything it has to keep the rouble afloat.
It's going to blow up when foreigners sell off.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:38 am to Kansas City King
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Kiev will still stand for many years to come because of their heroics.
An optimist. Considering Ukraine is war torn and they have coups on a regular there, I wouldn't be betting heavily on Kiev regime staying in power for years to come.
Russia doesn't want to occupy Kiev- they want to topple ethno-nationalists so they can have a friendly government to deal with. The seige of Kiev created a lot of violation of civil rights, murders etc...Everyone willing was handed an Ak. There is paranoia and distrust between people. Klitchko prohibited use of alcohol, for frick's sake, cause apparently people were shooting each other to settle beefs. That's not a normal life in the city.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 12:42 am
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:44 am to TigerFanatic99
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I'm starting to think more and more that this is going to hurt our economy more in the long run that Russia's
Everyone loses. Big guy and crackhead son get their 10%.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:49 am to WeeWee
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Russia is redeploying its forces to try and stop the Ukies from pushing the Russians shite in. There is no way that you can spin Russia giving up its attack on Kyiv. Giving up the attack on Kyiv frees up at least 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers. Plus the roads and railways from Kyiv to the Donbass area of operation are all still intact. The Ukies can reinforce their troops faster than the Russians because they have a relatively straight shot. Russia has to withdraw to Belarus, move troops and equipment from Belarus back to Russia and then move them to the Donbas area or around the Sea of Azov, cross the Kerch Straits and through Crimea to reach the front. Those roads and railroads are already busy AF, how are the Russians going to increase the numbers of troops supported by those roads and rails and still supply them?
Why the frick do you think Russia is in full retreat mode and going to let Ukraine just do the frick whatever it wants? Russia will be in a more defensible position and not have to deal with the western media looking for a false flag and not have to deal with sieging a pointless city with every military target already destroyed.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 2:56 am
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:04 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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First Squawk
@FirstSquawk
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VATICAN BANK TRANSFERRED 10 MILLION EUROS TO BUY RUBLES FROM THE CENTRAL BANK OF RUSSIA TO PAY FOR GAS - MEDIA
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:14 am to Palmetto98
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Sticks and stones may break my bones but there will always be words that offend a feminist.
Based on the context of the last post by this person, I can't help but think of....
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:35 am to mjfrog93
If you want legit military footage from both sides,for pro-Russian viewpoint go search Intel Slava Z- this dude daily compliations of pro-DPR/Russian updates. Pro-Ukrainian updates come via Reddit's Combat Footage, though Ukrainian videos have become less frequent. Updooters have been really deflated there lately.
Intel Slava Z
Intel Slava Z
Posted on 3/30/22 at 7:13 am to Kansas City King
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Huh? The alternative is Russia successfully capturing Kiev and dealing a critical blow to the Ukrainian armed forces and their moral. Zelensky would likely be killed. Huge credit to the Ukrainians successfully fending off one of the world most powerful militaries. Kiev will still stand for many years to come because of their heroics
What did you think the Russians were going to do? Roll in thousands of tanks and armored personnel carriers down the streets of a city with a metro population larger than Austin Texas that 1) Has thousands of anti tank weapons supplied by the US, 2) has had over a month to strategize layers of defenses, 3) Is a strategic nightmare because it’s split by a river (Ukrainians will blow bridges if needed before letting the city fall), 4)It’s literally full of citizens that are armed and stayed to fight.
I hope it doesn’t come down to it, but if if the Russian’s feel the need to take Kyiv, they will blow it to shite like Mariupol and Kharkiv to the point where there’s nothing left to fight for.
You hear how Russian intelligence has been wrong from the fake news that pushed a Russian collusion “domestic propaganda” for 2 years on the American people.
Decapitation of the capitol remember from the start? If all of the port cities in the south and a majority of Eastern cities are in Russian control what is Kyiv the capitol of? Basically a bunch of farmland and an extension of Romania and Poland in the west because that’s the only other significant population centers.
Not a cheer in support of Russia, but nothing they are doing is surprising from a tactical and strategic standpoint. We have announced to the world literally every week the equipment being sent. You don’t need an intelligence agency to figure out rolling equipment into Kyiv is the shiny hook leading into a death trap.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 7:25 am to WokeGoBroke
To review:
You have a ‘check ‘em’ avatar, your account started on March 8th and you want people to use Incel Slava Z as a source.
Do you get paid by the post or do you get paid for responses?
You have a ‘check ‘em’ avatar, your account started on March 8th and you want people to use Incel Slava Z as a source.
Do you get paid by the post or do you get paid for responses?
Posted on 3/30/22 at 7:27 am to TigerAttorney
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What did you think the Russians were going to do? Roll in thousands of tanks and armored personnel carriers down the streets of a city with a metro population larger than Austin Texas that 1) Has thousands of anti tank weapons supplied by the US, 2) has had over a month to strategize layers of defenses, 3) Is a strategic nightmare because it’s split by a river (Ukrainians will blow bridges if needed before letting the city fall), 4)It’s literally full of citizens that are armed and stayed to fight.
Yes. That’s exactly what Russia tried to do.
Don’t forget, they thought the Ukrainians would drop their arms and greet them as liberators.
Posted on 3/30/22 at 7:28 am to RuLSU
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Don’t forget, they thought the Ukrainians would drop their arms and greet them as liberators.
Is there a link for this or just made up?
Posted on 3/30/22 at 7:37 am to SDVTiger
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Is there a link for this or just made up?
WSJ - LINK
BI - LINK
Mystery Link, you'll love it - LINK
Brookings - LINK
CNBC - LINK
Atlantic - LINK
All feature the same concept: clear evidence Russia attempted a 'bum rush' on Kiev and got turned back.
The 'liberator' stuff is potentially made up, but it certainly has featured in a lot of reporting.
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