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re: The New Zealand shooter was trained. By who?

Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:04 pm to
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The thread, I think, is more aimed at how he became so comfortable and confident doing what he d. . .
Guy was having fun, he had marginalized these folks to the point it was like shooting fish in a barrel, and he was in complete control. There was no moral threshold to cross (not in his mind). It didn't take special forces training. He had the options well thought out, he had the jump on them, and he knew that if things went haywire he'd already accomplished what he wanted. Maybe he had an out planned... maybe not. All the what-ifs had already been reported for years by the media.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16999 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:05 pm to
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Lone wolf who just all of a sudden decided to go out and shoot muslims my arse


According to Aussie media, he became somewhat wealthy through crypto currency investments and traveled the world for a while (went to Pakistan, North Korea among other very odd vacation destinations). So we know he had money. He sounds a lot like the Vegas shooter, tbh. A bored psychopath with enough money that he didn't have to hold down a 9-5 job. Give a psychopath money and idle time and they become dangerous.

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Was calm with a steady hand the whole time and didn't let nerves or adrenaline affect him.


To be expected from a psychopath. Studies have shown psychopaths have almost zero anxiety even in dangerous situations. Their brains aren't wired for it. So it's no surprise this guy was cool as a cucumber as he gunned down innocent people. If he hadn't been arrested, he would have went home, ate dinner and slept like a baby.

To be fair, most psychopaths dont become killers. They find legal outlets for their pathology. They might become CEO's, politicians or soldiers where they can kill legally.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27881 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:24 pm to
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This post needs more attention, I think there's another 80-100 of you "we only deal in facts and we aren't the stupid, violent ones" that would upvote this ignorant shite. It would give sane, rational thinking people an idea as to what percentage of PT posters have really gone off the deep end.
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Damn, why is it so easy to troll so many of you fricks?
You fall for anything.
Fish that can be hooked any way, any day.
No wonder the MSM finds it so easy to drag you around by the nose.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:35 pm to
People act like shooting a rifle at close range into a mass of people requires special skill. Based on all the prior mass shootings it’s clearly not. The steadiness, calmness....he’s a fricking psychopath. fricking conspiratards.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:49 pm to
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They're already talking about seizing guns in New Zealand
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First thing my husband said was how could this happen where guns are banned?
Which one is it?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29986 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 3:50 pm to
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People act like shooting a rifle at close range into a mass of people requires special skill. Based on all the prior mass shootings it’s clearly not. The steadiness, calmness....he’s a fricking psychopath. fricking conspiratards


This thing has the Rothschilds' fingerprints all over it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:00 pm to
One of the weirdest feelings I have felt was in a high-end virtual reality first person shooter. Walked up behind someone who was unaware, pointed my controller/pistol, and pulled the trigger.

I've played a lot of shooting games and VR is the only time I have felt it was immersive enough to potentially cross a line. I'm not saying it crossed a line either.. just that I could see how it could.

Btw first person shooters in VR are fricking awesome
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9309 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:03 pm to
Where can I find the live stream video now?
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:07 pm to
Maybe he had training but I watched the video and didn't see anything special. He struggled with magazine changes and it's not that hard to pump rounds into people huddled in corners.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:18 pm to
Probably torrent sites
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29986 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:30 pm to
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Maybe he had training but I watched the video and didn't see anything special. He struggled with magazine changes and it's not that hard to pump rounds into people huddled in corners.


You arent wrong. I for one dont believe he was "trained" but do think he educated himself somehow, to some extent. He's no expert Im quite sure, but looked like he had beyond average skills in the area of gunning down humans. Could be just internet/youtube videos and such. But something desensitized this person to be able to make the leap from thinking abt it to doing the deed. As far as fumbling with magazine changes...that might ne chalked up to an overabundance of adrenaline. My personal guess....already mentally disturbed, whatever extremist beliefs or indoctrination via internet, chronic first person shooter gamer (quite possibly VR) which coupled with the mental illness is the desensitization aspect, and youtube/internet research just to watch some examples.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:09 pm to
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He made it look easy. Definitely had some kind of training here. I bet even trained US military men are not such good shots. He was knocking down moving targets like an expert marksman. Did I mention he was calm the entire time with steady hands?


Well no one was shooting back at him....
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39176 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:24 pm to
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He was extremely accurate and didn't miss.

He was using an AR-15 at max range of maybe 20 ft. Slow moving targets too. Hard to miss.
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Took cover when he needed to take cover.

I don't remember him taking cover. Would be pointless considering his victims were all unarmed.
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Had no trouble changing magazines.

Its not exactly complicated. He also did struggle a few times.


As for who trained him, this was in his manifesto. He was obviously a SEAL.
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You are a bigot,racist,xenophobe,islamophobe,nazi,fascist!
A. Compliments will get you no where.
B. That isn’t a question.
C. What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shite to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable arse off the face of the continent, you little shite. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shite fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.

Some news station even reported it LINK
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:30 pm to
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Some people are just steady. Others shake like a leaf





I guarantee if I kill someone I'm going to be losing my shite. I'm not just talking about senseless murder like this guy, I'm talk about if a man with a gun breaks into my home and threatens to kill me but I kill him first. I'm still going to be losing it.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:38 pm to
Dude was shooting at clusters of people at max distances of 10-15 feet away with a modified full auto AR-15. It’s pretty fricking hard to miss. The fact that every single person in there wasn’t killed is far more amazing.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:39 pm to
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with a full auto.
semi but point stands
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5477 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:48 pm to
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I think we are seeing Mass Murder Performance Art for the Internet Generation. I’d urge everybody to stand down for now.
Interesting term and take.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32220 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:26 pm to
I have seen that before. Where have I seen that before?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29986 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:28 pm to
Are manchurian candidates still a thing? Or did those go out with the 90s?
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2006 posts
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:42 pm to
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I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces




sounds like the typical muh guns loser that always opens fire on unarmed civilians
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