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re: The narrative about cities turning into shite holes

Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:13 am to
Homeless need lots of other people to survive- begging, dumpster diving, etc. They need public sheltering options and access to drugs. Urban structures like storefronts, parks, and overpasses to stay out of the weather. They need busy street corners to beg and pan handle.

They stay in cities for those reasons.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:32 am to
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So you never said the above.


How is that blame? I used neutral words. Was there a fallacy in there? You can’t just say I’m casting blame because you don’t like the facts.

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Just STFU. Everything you say seems to be a blatant lie.
another logical, emotionless response from our male politard cohort.
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:35 am to
Major metropolitan areas around the world are turning into shitholes- rapidly in most cases.

And while you can try to convince people otherwise, their eyes and basic ability to use logic will prove you are wrong.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61751 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:41 am to
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Why go back to 2004?


It was a comparison to pre-Katrina that another poster wanted to explore.

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New Orleans was once the Paris of the South… one of the most important cities in the US.

Arguably, the most important city in the US for a while. I would love to see New Orleans return to its former glory. The impacts of the flight of industry and taxpayers from the city decades ago is clearly still felt profoundly today. Along with major systemic incompetencies, intense catastrophic weather patterns aren’t helping to attract business or many residents.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:44 am to
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everywhere. Yes Atlanta is like most 3rd world countries in that you have pockets of affluence that can afford to keep the majority out. But let’s not pretend the rampant violence and gang and culture related violence isn’t there.


I was in downtown Atlanta recently and I was struck by the lack of homeless people I saw. Then my daughter and I looked for a bench to sit on while we waited for our uber and there were none as far as the eye could see. Made it reallt easy to put two and two together.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 12:15 pm to
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I was in downtown Atlanta recently and I was struck by the lack of homeless people I saw.


Y’all were looking in the wrong places. Go to Peachtree/Pine…..tons of them there, and they can be quite aggressive. There are panhandlers at every downtown and midtown on ramp to all the interstates. Tents are under most of the overpasses.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:44 pm to
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where do you live? doubt you’ll answer truthfully.


I live in a Baton Rouge suburb. It’s not heaven on earth or anything but it’s still better than NOLA. And it’s just a random small town. New Orleans is a major US city known by people all over the globe and it doesn’t live up to its name.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:50 pm to
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Because I know for a fact it isn’t nonsense
Link it.

Link the programs funded in Slidell, Mandeville, and Covington to transport their own homeless across the lake to New Orleans.

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Vagrancy is illegal.
So is shitting on a food shelf in Safeway. So is public fornication. Did you think those things were legal??

I've already told you homeless will gravitate to areas where THE LAWS ARE NOT ENFORCED. That is apparently not St. Tammany Parish.

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These things aren’t happening in the vast majority of neighborhoods in New Orleans.
Why?

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My neighbors would never let bad behavior fly here anyway.
So, what exactly would your neighbors do if a trashy drugged up couple were having a midday rumpy pumpy on the sidewalk? What would they do when the popo said no action is forthcoming?

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But it seems like people in suburbia are horrified at the thought of speaking to someone they view as inferior.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 1:52 pm to
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I live in a Baton Rouge suburb. It’s not heaven on earth


no shite

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but it’s still better than NOLA




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New Orleans is a major US city known by people all over the globe and it doesn’t live up to its name.


No, it doesn’t live up to your very narrow and conservative preferences.

Newsflash dipshit, neither you nor the right wing media narratives you’re parroting are the arbiter of what cities are good and what aren’t. Now frick off.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:11 pm to
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No, it doesn’t live up to your very narrow and conservative preferences.


No man. It doesn’t live up to what people expect from a major metropolitan city. It’s dirty and whatever charm it used to have is gone.

Nobody expects the small town I live in to be much of anything. They expect of NOLA and NOLA doesn’t deliver. Especially compared to other cities around the world. Maybe if you left your little bubble and saw what other international destination cities look like you’d know that.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:17 pm to
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it’s dirty


when has it ever not been dirty? it’s less dirty now that it was 20+ years ago

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whatever charm it used to have is gone.


how often do you even come to new orleans? and when you do, where do you go?

if you’re expecting bourbon street to be as fun now as it was when you were 20 then that’s on you

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Maybe if you left your little bubble and saw what other international destination cities look like you’d know that.


i’ve been all over Europe, Asia, and the US.

If you’re expecting a port city in the extreme deep south of the US to match up with London, Madrid, or Beijing then the problem again is you.

it’s fine if new orleans isn’t your cup of tea, acting like your opinion is objective fact is the problem. there are plenty of places here and elsewhere i don’t particularly like but you don’t see me whining about them on here.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:20 pm to
Your hometown sucks bro. I’m sorry.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:20 pm to
that weak of a response may as well be an admission of defeat

if you can’t answer simple questions to support your view, you don’t have a leg to stand on.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:24 pm to
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Now frick off.


You first.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:26 pm to
come make me
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:29 pm to
sonic is always at our disposal
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139678 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:31 pm to
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acting like your opinion is objective fact is the problem
Is it?

Most dangerous city per capita in the US and the 28th most dangerous on the planet is objective fact. No?





Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21594 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:32 pm to

The city is full of free entertainment. I always enjoy a good show.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7640 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 2:34 pm to
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There are panhandlers at every downtown and midtown on ramp to all the interstates. Tents are under most of the overpasses.


They are on the ramp from I-20 to I-85 every time I go through there, for years.
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