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re: The move of Jesus in and amongst Islam is truly a thing to behold these days
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:42 am to soonerinlOUisiana
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:42 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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The frick they do. Where are all their direct mailings? Where are all their fun runs? Benefit concerts? To the extent that they exist, they are trivial and of no consequence, because moslems are not generous people. And on top of the pedophilia, they are also incestuous inbreds.
Now, please identify the pedophiles who rule us and provide the evidence.
Just look it up. The idea they don't do that stuff is just some bullshite you made up.
Are you pretending Epstein Island didn't exist?
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:45 am to Narax
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Is this direct US action, or anti US groups attacking civilians so they can retake that country via terror.
I always found it strange that these deaths get attributed to us vs the people actually doing the killing.
That is direct kills from US bombs etc. Indirectly the number is in the millions.
But it is hard to get accurate numbers in these things. I figure either way, it's too many people. We shouldn't have been in Iraq/Afghanistan to start with.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:48 am to 3down10
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That is direct kills from US bombs etc
Who pulled those numbers together?
Like you said its hard to find numbers on that.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:00 am to somethingdifferent
quote:Just wanted to say 'thank you' for taking the time to respond to that conspiracy theorist and perpetual hater of Christ. The more who call him to task on his lies, the better
somethingdifferent
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:04 am to Narax
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Who pulled those numbers together?
Like you said its hard to find numbers on that.
I just did some searches and came across things like this.
Number of documented civilian deaths in the Iraq war from 2003 to 2024
And also like this, it has some weapon break downs as well. But it's kind of a pain because it includes the other things as well.
Iraqi deaths from violence 2003–2011
I figured 100k was a conservative number considering this is only Iraq and doesn't include Afghanistan or other areas we've bombed in the middle east.
No matter what, it's way too many.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 1:06 am
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:13 am to 3down10
quote:You are clearly not taught from God, because even your use of the 2nd table of the law contradicts what God teaches.
God taught me. You are on the path to hell.
The image you provided says:
"Thou shalt not kill: unless you're a cop or soldier and been given orders". God commands the death penalty to be used by the government of Israel, and He commanded soldiers of Israel to drive out the idolaters of the land of Canaan, including by killing them. God recognizes that killing can be justice, but He forbids murder.
"Thou shalt not steal: unless you're an IRS, DEA, ATF, NSA, FBI, or TSA agent". God supports taxation as necessary for the upkeep of government in society. He commanded Israel to pay taxes and commands the Church to tithe. Jesus paid a temple tax and said to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, when speaking of taxes.
"Thou shalt not lie: unless you're a politician, news outlet, corporation, officer of the law, or public official". This one is pretty clear and straight forward that we are to speak the truth at all times, and there are no exceptions for being a politician or otherwise.
"Thou shalt not covet: except for our neighbors' fruit of labor to pay for the wars, aid, entitlements, services, and laws." Again, see above about taxes. There is precedent for laws about leaving gleanings of fields for the poor and sojourners to feed them. Taxes are used lawfully in the Bible for just wars and administration of government. Taxation is not theft, or else God wouldn't allow or command it.
Because you recognize God's words in the Bible, you need to be consistent with the rest of it when comparing to your own alleged personal revelation from God. Otherwise, there is no test for us regarding that revelation to you, and we need to reject you as a false prophet, or else you need to ensure you aren't mentioning anything about it being revelation.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:13 am to weagle1999
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Ironically the Muslims are more tolerant of Jesus than the Jews.
I haven't seen any videos of Jews cutting the heads off of Christians? Have you?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:41 am to FooManChoo
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You are clearly not taught from God, because even your use of the 2nd table of the law contradicts what God teaches.
I don't seek or need your approval.
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"Thou shalt not kill: unless you're a cop or soldier and been given orders". God commands the death penalty to be used by the government of Israel, and He commanded soldiers of Israel to drive out the idolaters of the land of Canaan, including by killing them. God recognizes that killing can be justice, but He forbids murder.
Then I guess you also believe in killing all non believers as outlined in Deuteronomy 13. And you also stone your neighbors for how they plant their crops as outlined in Leviticus.
Self defense is when it is ok or to protect others.
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"Thou shalt not steal: unless you're an IRS, DEA, ATF, NSA, FBI, or TSA agent". God supports taxation as necessary for the upkeep of government in society. He commanded Israel to pay taxes and commands the Church to tithe. Jesus paid a temple tax and said to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, when speaking of taxes.
None of the agencies mentioned do the things you list. Those things are paid by local taxes.
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"Thou shalt not lie: unless you're a politician, news outlet, corporation, officer of the law, or public official". This one is pretty clear and straight forward that we are to speak the truth at all times, and there are no exceptions for being a politician or otherwise.
Yet it is considered normal and is expected/accepted behavior.
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"Thou shalt not covet: except for our neighbors' fruit of labor to pay for the wars, aid, entitlements, services, and laws." Again, see above about taxes. There is precedent for laws about leaving gleanings of fields for the poor and sojourners to feed them. Taxes are used lawfully in the Bible for just wars and administration of government. Taxation is not theft, or else God wouldn't allow or command it.
It is taken by theft by the threat of death, not willing by people following God. It's also not used for the purposes you list.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:35 am to 3down10
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Just look it up. The idea they don't do that stuff is just some bullshite you made up. Are you pretending Epstein Island didn't exist?
Ah yes. The old “luck it up” retort. Classic response of a retard who has no evidence to back up his accusations. I guess the moon landing was faked too, right?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:01 am to 3down10
quote:My words are for others. I already know you are blinded to the truth because you believe you have received a personal revelation, and nothing is going to convince you otherwise, not even the word of God in the Bible, that you wrongly use.
I don't seek or need your approval.
quote:I believe that governments can make such laws but that they see not necessary. The civil/judicial laws and ceremonial laws were abrogated with the death of Christ and the gospel given to the Gentiles.
Then I guess you also believe in killing all non believers as outlined in Deuteronomy 13. And you also stone your neighbors for how they plant their crops as outlined in Leviticus.
That’s beside the point, though. If God commands a thing, it cannot be sin.
There are examples of just war and the death penalty throughout Scripture and they cannot violate the 6th commandment. So, your image is incorrect about those things.
quote:All governments use taxes to fund administration, like paying workers’ salaries.
None of the agencies mentioned do the things you list. Those things are paid by local taxes.
My point wasn’t to focus on the details of how tax dollars are spent, but to say that the Bible doesn’t treat taxes like theft. Jesus told the tax collector to take only what is owed, for example. So again, the image is wrong about the 8th commandment.
quote:It shouldn’t be. The standard is God‘s infallible word, and according to His word, lying is sinful.
Yet it is considered normal and is expected/accepted behavior.
quote:Again, government collecting taxes is not theft, but a standard practice supported by Scripture. They are the ones printing the currency, which was Jesus’ point in asking whose face was on the money before saying to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.
It is taken by theft by the threat of death, not willing by people following God. It's also not used for the purposes you list.
Regarding your pictures that violate the 2nd commandment: no, it isn’t the job of the government to take over all care for the poor or the needy, but there isn’t anything inherently sinful in their helping to do so. All Christians still have the obligation to help their neighbors as they have the ability and resources, following the order of loves. Government using taxes to help is not unbiblical in itself.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:06 am to FooManChoo
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Just wanted to say 'thank you' for taking the time to respond to that conspiracy theorist and perpetual hater of Christ. The more who call him to task on his lies, the better
He’s not angry, but you are. And are you ignoring somethingdifferent’s lies about polytheism among the Israelites?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:09 am to somethingdifferent
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Like the idea that the Jews were originally polytheistic
They were. I can’t believe that you’re still here pushing your bullshite.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:17 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:SM’s hatred of Christ doesn’t necessitate the emotion of anger to be present, but he hates Christ all the same. God says as much in His word.
He’s not angry, but you are.
I’m not angry, either. I don’t hate SM, even with his attacks against the truth. I hate his sin, but I hate my own sin, as well. I want him to be saved, and I want the same thing for you.
quote:No. If I understood him rightly, he wasn’t talking about polytheism existing among the Israelites, but that such polytheism was outlawed among them and it persisted in varying levels, even against the law. The nation was founded by Yahweh and He judged the people time and time again for polytheistic idolatry precisely because it was taught to them that there aren’t other gods, and that they should worship the one, true God who brought them out of Egypt. God reminds them of that a lot.
And are you ignoring somethingdifferent’s lies about polytheism among the Israelites?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:18 am to FooManChoo
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If I understood him rightly
You didn’t.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:35 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Since you are so concerned about me refuting his alleged lies about Israelite polytheism, please provide the specific quotes you are referring to, then, or help me understand his intent so I can respond.
You didn’t.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:43 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Ironically the Muslims are more tolerant of Jesus than the Jews.
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^calling bullshiit on this.
Jews make up 2.4% of the US population.
Jews account for 10% of those killed on 9/11.
Link to source
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:52 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Where is the Moslem United way?
Are you seriously claiming that the United Way is a Christian-based organization?
FYI - Muslims have an organization called "Red Crescent" that is their equivalent of the Red Cross.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:19 am to TulsaSooner78
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Integris Baptist Hospital in Oklahoma City has an entire wing named after a Muslim doctor (Nazih Zuhdi)
Irrelevant. Now try actually addressing my question, twstwaffle.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:49 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Ah yes. The old “luck it up” retort. Classic response of a retard who has no evidence to back up his accusations. I guess the moon landing was faked too, right?
You are the one making the claim they don't have them. They clearly do.
And in 1969 it would have been easier to go to the moon than to fake it.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:49 am to somethingdifferent
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You consistenly pick out the biblically skeptical position in debated topics. It's pure emotion
Nope, I just use facts, and let the facts determine what is the truth. It’s not hard, but you have to be open-minded and be capable of rational thought.
You guys remind me of Ignatius.
His letter to the Smyrnaeans 3.1:
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For He suffered all these things for us, that we might be saved;
and He truly suffered, even as He also truly raised up Himself;
and after His resurrection He did eat and drink with them, as being in the flesh, although spiritually He was united with the Father.
So some Christians denied Jesus was raised in the flesh. Christians like Paul in fact, who specifically said Jesus’ body was raised not in flesh but in spirit, as what is sown is perishable and what is raised is imperishable. You know the line.
And in Magnesians 11:
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Be fully persuaded concerning the birth and the passion and the resurrection,
which took place in the time of the governorship of Pontius Pilate;
these things were truly and certainly done by Jesus Christ.
So we know there were some Christians who said Jesus was NOT born, NOT killed, and NOT resurrected under Pontius Pilate. Where did they believe all this happened? In heaven of course, just as Paul plainly states in 1 Corinthians 2.
And my favorite Ignatius letter is to the Trallians 9.1–2…
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Be ye deaf therefore, when any man speaketh to you apart from Jesus Christ,
who was of the race of David,
who was the Son of Mary,
who was truly born and ate and drank,
was truly persecuted under Pontius Pilate, was truly crucified and died,
in the sight of beings in heaven and on earth and under the earth.
Takeaways? I’ll help for you simple minded twits. Some Christians claimed Jesus was not a Jewish man, not the son of Mary, not even born, never ate or drank as a person would have to, wasn’t crucified under Pontius Pilate, and wasn’t crucified in site of earthly beings.
Some of your type of polemics against the original religion of the celestial Jesus even made it into the Bible.
Like 2 John 7, whining about other Christians who rejected the idea of Jesus has already come to earth. To those Christians, the coming of Jesus was a future event after his celestial death and resurrection, for the purpose of judging the living and the dead.
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For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
The “orthodox” Christians who “won” had to write polemics against the Christian sects, like the ones of Paul, who specifically called out the “orthodox” cleverly devised myths of the Jesus on earth.
2 Peter 1:16
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For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
Added bonus: Ignatius of Antioch wrote a shitload of letters, but he never quoted any of the gospels we have today, because they hadn’t been written by the time he lived in the first part of the second century.
You idiots are just as emotional as Ignatius, Irenaeus, Tertullian, and the rest of the “orthodox” church fathers. And then you hypocritically project your faults (faith, gullibility, emotion) onto others. It’s sad.
When you go to church today, and you recite the Nicene-Constantinople creed, think hard about each one of the lines. Each one of those lines sought to establish uniformity in the Roman Christian church in the 4th century.
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We believe in one god
There were some Christians who believed in two, three, or many gods
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begotten, not made, of one essence with the Father
Many Christians believed Jesus was a created being and distinct in essence. It’s in the Bible after all. You guys just shite on the literal text of the Bible because your dogma supersedes it.
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Through him all things were made
Many Christians, perhaps the majority at one point in the second century (Marcionism), believed the evil Yahweh created the world and that Jesus came to rescue us from Yahweh
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he came down from heaven,
Some said he didn’t come down from heaven… he was killed in the heavens by the archons.
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was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became human. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
Many Christians said none of that shite happened. That’s what Ignatius was bitching about in his letters.
So you see, I’m not the one that came up with all your beliefs being a bunch of bullshite. Other Christian groups had already done that over 1600 to 1900 years ago. You’re the emotional irrational ones that can’t see it.
P.S. merry Xmas
P.P.S./ETA: In Ignatius’ letter to the Smyrnaeans Chapter 1 he wrote:
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He was truly born of a virgin, and baptized by John, that all righteousness might be fulfilled by Him.
These are responses to other Christians who denied Jesus was born of a virgin and who denied Jesus was baptized by John”. I forgot to mention that one earlier and it just came to me.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 11:09 am
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