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re: The Medium income Amercan Family now earns 1/2 the income needed to buy the avg home.

Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:10 pm to
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owns a large home


Keeping up with the Joneses?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Just FWIW
Obviously none of these places are Mar-a-lago.
But that doesn't mean they're off-the-charts terrible as domiciles.

Plus there's pretty good legal assistance in the community.

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:13 pm to
No I would just like to have a slightly larger house since I have kids now. Four people in a 1200 sq foot home is pretty cramped.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:13 pm to
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If you borrowed 200k for a home in 2020 your monthly interest/principal payment would be about $820, today that same loan would cost about $1300
How many of those looking to buy their first home voted for biden? If they did, they are getting exactly what they voted for and deserve. If they voted for Trump, I have a bit more compassion for them. But either way, that's the cards they are delt. Adapt and overcome.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
Median income in lake Charles is $30k.

No one making $30k is buying a $200k+ house.

Edit: adjusted figures, was thinking of st charles parish at first
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
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How many of those that are complaining today voted for biden in 2020? If they voted for biden, they are getting exactly what they asked for in 2020. If they voted for Trump in 2020, I might have a little more compassion. But again, adapt and overcome. If you can't have what you want where you are, go somewhere else.

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Way to go way off topic, but just before you try and pretend like D or R has anything to do with the housing problem in general, understand I've never voted for a D in my life, so you cant use that scapegoat.

We're in this situation now not due to any specific party, it's becuase for decades we havent built enough housing in general and affordable housing as well. On top of that, interest rates shot up all of sudden and due to the lack of supply finally catching up to us, housing prices still skyrocketed after we had a very low interest rate environment and people bought up housing left and right at that time.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Any lending company caught doing this on purpose should have their entire leadership team lined up against a wall and shot.
No disagreement here. But are they really worse than democrats and GOPe?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Way to go way off topic, but just before you try and pretend like D or R has anything to do with the housing problem in general, understand I've never voted for a D in my life, so you cant use that scapegoat.

Actually it has much to do with the interest rates....
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Your seriously referencing someone who purchased 5 years ago with a sub 3% mortgage to make a point about home ownership today?

I'm referencing an article written in September
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:16 pm to
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No one making $30k is buying a $200k+ house.
Then move or increase your skill set and make more money.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
22056 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:17 pm to
... yes, but these baws need pools, landscapers, ...


Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
72338 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:18 pm to
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True, but that might be the goal. Make the loan, allow the couple to make payments for a few years, collect the interest, when the couple defaults take the home and resell....





If this money making scheme was a good idea why havent banks given as money bogus loans to people who cant afford the house in the past?

Hint - Probably because foreclosures typically sell for 70-80% of the market value. They dont WANT to foreclose on someone who just took on a loan in the last year or two, they lose money
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41136 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Then move or increase your skill set and make more money.


The fact you are this oblivious to the point being made, i'd say is shocking, but at this point it really isn't.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6273 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:18 pm to
I own my own home

If you dont see how this is a problem for the country as a whole I dont know what to tell you. Our birth rate is collapsing, most people cant afford to start a family
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
22056 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:18 pm to
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No one making $30k is buying a $200k+ house.


Manage your money wisely beforehand and you could.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43463 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Our birth rate is collapsing, most people cant afford to start a family


Someone finally mentioned the real problem with this.

Japan is the use case currently.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22775 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:20 pm to
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My first home after marriage in 1979 was a fixed 30 year at 13.4% interest 30% down.
Yea on a 98k home don't pretend you went through the same shite as buyers today.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41136 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:20 pm to
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If you dont see how this is a problem for the country as a whole I dont know what to tell you. Our birth rate is collapsing, most people cant afford to start a family


Yep. When the housing prices compared to median income of an area are that far out of balance with each other, it is a major problem.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:21 pm to
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2. Buying a house and being able to AFFORD the house are 2 very different things. Point being, 2 people could own the same exact house but 1 can AFFORD it much better than the other. Case in point my very own house once aga
Right.
Then, hopefully, it becomes a highly profitable acquisition in a levered purchase for both. Granted, the house-poor fellow has to budget differently.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43463 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Manage your money wisely beforehand and you could.


You have 30k.

How will you invest to obtain a loan value of a 200k house? Since you believe it is possible show us how you think it is.

Remember you still need to pay for the following:

Insurance
Rent
Groceries
Utilities (Electric/Water/Gas)
Telecom (Because you cant function in todays society without cell or internet)
Vehicle + Fuel
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