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re: The Media Is Starting To Turn on the Responding Law Enforcement Officers

Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to
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frick the cops. They’re nothing but goons of the establishment anyways

I felt this way in 8th grade, too.

It's an honorable profession for those honorable enough to do it the way it should be done. I do understand sometimes they're few and far between.

It sounds like you've either had some run-ins with shittier officers, and I hate that for you. It's definitely not this way all across the board.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Nah those guys act all big and badass when 6 of them pull up on the side of the road to harass and intimidate you after running a stop sign but they turn into massive pussies when a POS is shooting some children. They can frick right off with the media


100 percent. Cops are the biggest LARPers in the world.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2380 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:31 pm to
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The kids were in the classroom were shot essentially immediately after it started and he entered the room.

At the time parents gathered, police it was over. There was no one to save. Only could have gotten more killed.



That is a pretty convenient narrative. Cops waited for an hour but all the kids were already dead so it is okay.

We know for a fact one girl was shot 5 times and survived. There were other kids in the room hiding that he did not know about. So no, not all of the kids were dead and no, it was not over for all of them.

How many others might have survived if medics had gotten to them sooner?

But at least none of the heavily armed officers lost their lives.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Ooof. That's a bit much.

Yeah, that stings.

I can't say it isn't deserved, though.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26655 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:36 pm to
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How many others might have survived if medics had gotten to them sooner?



We dont know. Autopsies will tell us more about that. Then maybe we can pass judgement.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:39 pm to
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We dont know. Do you know?


No. That’s why I asked the question. The person to whom I responded pretended to know the answer. I was highlighting that he did not know the answer.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:42 pm to
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100 percent. Cops are the biggest LARPers in the world.

A few, not all.

The bad part is that all it takes is a few.

I've recovered missing kids. I returned a guy's stolen toolboxes to him so he could earn for his family. My squad found elderly folks who were stuck raising their grandchildren (because the kids' parents were dopers) and would take them Christmas shopping.

But you have to know that all of that heartwarming shite...no one ever really sees it. We did it because it was what had to be done. And we all knew that one dumb, rash decision would erode all of it.

I hate that you hold such a hard line opinion about police, but I understand. You should count yourself fortunate that you don't live the kind of life where one of these "LARPers" might end up being one of the people to give you a hand up one day.

A lot of people don't have that luxury.

This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:58 pm to
I live in a crime ridden shite-hole, so basically just your average Louisiana city.

Despite all that and the desperate pleas for more cops and more funding, the fricking police will be setting speed traps at 6 in the morning on the highway.

You know who is driving at 6 a.m? Working people.

Those are the people voting for the bond issues. Those are the victims of the crime. But yea, let's force a "tax" on them.

And when you do nab one of them, be a dick about it as well.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:17 pm to
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I live in a crime ridden shite-hole, so basically just your average Louisiana city.

Despite all that and the desperate pleas for more cops and more funding, the fricking police will be setting speed traps at 6 in the morning on the highway.

You know who is driving at 6 a.m? Working people.

Those are the people voting for the bond issues. Those are the victims of the crime. But yea, let's force a "tax" on them.

And when you do nab one of them, be a dick about it as well.
Yeah, you definitely sound emotional. Maybe you aren't being as objective as you could be.

I get that you don't like police, but it's silly to paint them all with a broad brush. I know it because I lived it.

But I do hope things improve for you. Maybe you could move somewhere nicer or really get out there and campaign for local politicians who will do right by the voters.

I'm confident in saying that your problems in life are probably not initialized by police.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Yeah, you definitely sound emotional.


Dude, I'm living my best life and I'm the happiest mofo you will ever meet.

I can afford to live in a nice gated community, so this shite hole doesn't affect me much personally, but I feel for the rest of the population.

Perhaps don't deflect on the personal lives of people you don't know when defending the thin blue line.

If all the manpower wasted on fricking traffic stops, speed traps and other wasteful bullshite was spent actually policing and solving crimes, life would be better for most people.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13632 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:41 pm to
I thought the officers were pretty quick to act, but I wasn’t there either. The media is most likely trying to make the cops look bad like they always do because that’s the agenda the media wants to push these days.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38405 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm to
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The Media Is Starting To Turn on the Responding Law Enforcement Officers
So I need more guns for my family's protection? Can't rely on the police? On it!
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Dude, I'm living my best life and I'm the happiest mofo you will ever meet.

I can afford to live in a nice gated community, so this shite hole doesn't affect me much personally, but I feel for the rest of the population.


My bad. The way you shat all over the city/state you live in made me think you were in a tight spot. Can't fault me for reading the words you typed.
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Perhaps don't deflect on the personal lives of people you don't know when defending the thin blue line.

If all the manpower wasted on fricking traffic stops, speed traps and other wasteful bullshite was spent actually policing and solving crimes, life would be better for most people.
This might come from having a very limited worldview though. I don't think I was defending the TBL. In fact, I've been critical of the Uvalde first responders in this thread. I call balls and strikes. I'm not the one that paints everything one color. I think that was you, actually.

As far as managing police resources, I again have to think that maybe you live in a place where those resources aren't managed well. I lived in several states and policed in two of them (both for large muni PDs) and it wasn't that way for us. Again, maybe you're conflating all LE operations based on your limited scope.

I wish you'd have had more positive experiences with LE in your life, or at least been exposed to the guys and gals that bust their arse to do a good job. Sadly, they are few and far between but far from extinct.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19543 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:49 pm to
If they waited outside for an hour...that is NOT "quick to act".
The body shots most likely bled out while the cops waited outside holding their dicks, tasered frightened hysterical parents and told everyone that "we have it under control".
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:55 pm to
Tasered? Cmon
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:12 pm to
This entire situation is crazy. No calls to the school for a lock down. Why was the teachers entrance unlocked. (Is what I am hearing) How did he have time to find this door if he didn't know in advance. As time goes it brings more questions than answers.

And yeah. As posted how many children bled out in pain waiting for help.

MORE GUNS IS THE ANSWER. Can't depend on any one.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:18 pm to
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Autopsies will tell us more about that.


Damn, you just don't get it. Talking with you is like talking to a brick.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
23650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:37 pm to
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And we all knew that one dumb, rash decision would erode all of it.


Honest question then. Why do all cops, even the “good” and “noble” ones, always circle the wagons and protect the “bad” ones? Even in the obvious, blatantly, shockingly “bad” situations? If it is true that most cops are good, and they are aware that one bad apple can ruin the whole barrel, then why do they all protect and cover for the rotten apples? It seems they would want to boot their asses and make an example of them; saying “this isn’t us; this guy was a jackass and doesn’t represent us”. But they don’t.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
23650 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:41 pm to
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Tasered? Cmon


Tell me you didn’t watch the video showing the police officer with the deployed taser and the parent being detained on the ground by multiple officers without telling me you didn’t watch the video.

Here is a screenshot to make it easy.


This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 6:48 pm
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
3532 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:46 pm to
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The team that is trained to enter the building and sweep. You guys think this is the military. All cops are not trained on clearing a building. If all cops were trained like that, there would be no need for SWAT, etc.


Are you high? Cops have become so fricking militarized over the last 15 years it’s insane, not even up for debate. My small ho dump po dump town parades around fricking tanks in their Christmas parade every year. Hell some even have fricking robots. This take is one of the worst I have seen.
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