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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170793 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:50 am to
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They MAY pull it off all on their own. We just need to not get in their way.


I don't even have a problem if we have to deliver the knock out punch for them at the Fordow site

The issue is we could potentially get involved in a long term occupation during a transition of power
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17733 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:50 am to
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All this hatred for the Jews, when you're much more likely to be harmed by a 13%'er


Eh, I pretty much hate everyone.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:51 am to
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You are an idiot
I have studied Islam academically at the graduate level. I am not uneducated regarding Islamic terrorism. At the popular level, have you heard of Brigitte Gabriel or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, etc? If you haven't, you should get exposed to them

quote:

they hate us for our freedom?
Not exactly but that's pretty close. Have you studied the kharijite vs mu'tazilite debates?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:51 am to
Man you're really defensive for a guy who's gonna get the war he wants. President Trump, Israel, The MIC and every politician in Washington funded by both agree with you.

We're going to war man. It's all good. Just take it easy homeboy. You've made a solid 22 year old argument for another Middle Eastern corporate war. It worked then, it works now.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3662 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:52 am to
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I pretty much hate everyone.
The hatred wouldn't be mutual would it?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:52 am to
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The USA is also a terrorist state
Do we have the right to protect our way of life? I never said we're perfect but we absolutely get to defend ourselves against terrorists and I can't believe people itt are debating the issue. Pure stupidity
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:53 am to
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Do we have the right to protect our way of life?


Does Iran?
Posted by DownSouthJukin
1x tRant Poster of the Millennium
Member since Jan 2014
31535 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:53 am to
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We aren't Iran's neighbor or even in their region. That's Israel's problem not ours. Its not hard to understand. Same can be said for Russia and Ukraine. Russia is Europe's problem not ours.


I never said the USA should be the one doing the punishing. We should not unless something occurs to directly affect the US homeland, US citizens, or US vital interests (destroying US shipping, attacking US ships, shooting down US airliners, etc.)
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:55 am
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17733 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:54 am to
Maybe, I don’t know. Probably.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13775 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:56 am to
I do enjoy how you let your guard down referring to Israel and Zionists and just call out Jews directly from time to time. Was the Vatican calling the shots for JFK during the Cuban Missile crisis and the Bay of Pigs too?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170793 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:56 am to
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Do we have the right to protect our way of life?

We don't need to go to war with Iran to protect our way of life

If anything starting new senseless wars is a great way to guarantee you have a lower quality of life
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170793 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:58 am to
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I do enjoy how you let your guard down referring to Israel and Zionists and just call out Jews directly from time to time.

Where is he doing this? Certainly not in the post you're responding to.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:58 am to
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I do enjoy how you let your guard down referring to Israel and Zionists and just call out Jews directly from time to time. Was the Vatican calling the shots for JFK during the Cuban Missile crisis and the Bay of Pigs too?


You're confusing me with someone else. I don't do any of that.

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3662 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:59 am to
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Maybe, I don’t know. Probably.
At least you are honest, I'll give you that. I like an honest person, even if we disagree.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24673 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:59 am to
You had me up until...

quote:

2. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive


Then I realized you may be THIS guy:



So anyways, frick off.


Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am to
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talking points are not facts
It is a fact that Islamic terrorism constantly works to destroy anything not Islamic. That includes America. That is a brute fact. We have enemies who want to destroy us. We either fight them there or fight them here. Thats is a brute fact

Anything else is naive and uneducated
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am to
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Stopped reading right there
Typical. Let me know when you're serious about having a grown up conversation instead of capitulating to emotion
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170793 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:03 am to
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You're confusing me with someone else. I don't do any of that.

Or he is lying

People have a tendency to just make up things and attribute them to people around here

If I took every accusation seriously I'd be a Nazi, Trans supporting, Jew hating, communist (which is funny because no one here even knows what communism means), globohomo

People here lie constantly because they can't hold a conversation when reality collides with their worldview
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1710 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:04 am to
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You have seen propaganda videos to drum up war support
Yeah, Muslims don't really support when terrorists attack infidels. That's all a lie.

My word you people
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39351 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:05 am to
I pretty much agree. I'm under no illusion that Israel is our friend and detest the outsized influence they have in our government. But, that does NOT mean Iran's government and military don't need to be obliterated off the map.

Some people on here bleat "MIC!" and "no foreign wars!" like they're catchphrases these posters just discovered yesterday. Believe it or not, there are legitimate instances where the use of American military power is warranted.

However, I do not support in any way, shape or form nation building. Any long-term commitment by our troops in rebuilding or recovering our foes country and government is out out of bounds. Blow their shite away and get out.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:04 pm
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