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The left going full retard will cause more defections to the GOP

Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:06 am
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:06 am
This will be something to keep an eye on. The far left is about to bleed out the rest of the Democratic party. Lot of moderates (including Black people) are turned off with the over-focus on immigration and ignoring domestic issues.

This may be a good time for the GOP to recruit more over. I'm a moderate Dem that's probably close to changing parties myself
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:07 am to
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I'm a moderate Dem that's probably close to changing parties myself


I'm genuinely curious what has stopped you to this point
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:11 am to
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I'm a moderate Dem that's probably close to changing parties myself


This man wants a coat..
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:15 am to
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I'm a moderate Dem


People need to stop "identifying" with a party as their team and start just figuring out what they actually believe and why and then vote accordingly.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:20 am to
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I'm genuinely curious what has stopped you to this point



The stone cold honest truth is I'm afraid to not be accepted if I switched over. Being a Black Southerner with some conservative beliefs (as well as some more moderate beliefs) isn't too uncommon, but most haven't warmed back up to the Republican party yet. Switching could essentially put me on an island.


Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:24 am to
However, more and more are waking up to the fact that the Democrats haven't done anything for Black people since LBJ got Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation in the post-JFK 60s.

Sadly, for many Black people, that was enough. No follow through since.

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Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:27 am to
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People need to stop "identifying" with a party as their team and start just figuring out what they actually believe and why and then vote accordingly.


True, but that won't happen until parties no longer exist.
Posted by rallyTiger
Member since Apr 2016
867 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:30 am to
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Being a Black Southerner with some conservative beliefs


Im right here with you buddy
Posted by rallyTiger
Member since Apr 2016
867 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:34 am to
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However, more and more are waking up to the fact that the Democrats haven't done anything for Black people since LBJ got Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation in the post-JFK 60s. 



I agree with all of this, voted for obama in 2012, didn't vote in 2016, gonna vote for trump in 2020
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 1:40 am to
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The stone cold honest truth is I'm afraid to not be accepted if I switched over. Being a Black Southerner with some conservative beliefs (as well as some more moderate beliefs) isn't too uncommon, but most haven't warmed back up to the Republican party yet. Switching could essentially put me on an island.


Come hang out with us conservative wypipo, we’re friendly.

Even if you don’t come out publicly, vote for the sane guys in private and deny it if you must. Your vote counts the same regardless of what you tell the public you did.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:20 am to
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The stone cold honest truth is I'm afraid to not be accepted if I switched over. Being a Black Southerner with some conservative beliefs (as well as some more moderate beliefs) isn't too uncommon, but most haven't warmed back up to the Republican party yet. Switching could essentially put me on an island. 


Look, what you say you do versus what you do are two different things.

Many know I'm a conservative now. By now, I mean all my liberal things I am a proponent to have been met. Pro gay marriage, pro gay rights. A number of other smaller things.

But the Dems have gone full on left-wing crazy and the Republicans have actually shifted to the left to where I was and am.

I don't tell everyone this, but it's the simple fact. If someone that I don't know well, or I know it's a big left, I likely will tell them I am voting for the Dems. Why?

Because the lefty people are crazy. They can make your life hell. Republicans will have discussions with you but that is it.

But I vote straight Republican now.

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However, more and more are waking up to the fact that the Democrats haven't done anything for Black people since LBJ got Civil Rights and Voting Rights legislation in the post-JFK 60s. 


Not to be mean, but what do you want them to do for you?

You say for many, sadly, that was enough. I'm not sure what else you want. I don't think I should pay for things done in the past that my family wasn't even here for.

I'm all for equal rights based on race. I'm against giving certain races benefits.

I'm for granting certain allowances on admissions to college allowing for the type of school you attended. I had no idea there were SAT courses when I took the test.

Anyways, I think allowances should be made for that. But giving allowance for races only is racist. Furthermore, the way diversity is explained is ridiculous. Multicultural but from the same socioeconomic level isn't diverse. Their life experiences are much more similar than a rich white guy and a poor white guy. Even more dramatic for a rich black guy and a poor black guy.

Anyways, you are correct that you will be talked over the coals if you say you are going to vote for Republicans. So don't say you are. But you get to vote however you want.

And in my opinion, the Dems care little about African Americans. They give them lip service, but they have been about 12 percent of the population for a while now. They want votes.

The Hispanic population is growing dramatically and will continue to grow. They want their vote. This the giving everything to illegal aliens.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:23 am to
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stomp
Thank you for a very honest and forthright answer
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:25 am to
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The left going full retard will cause more defections to the GOP


Don't leave the Independents.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24724 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:26 am to
Bernie should run as an Ind and that would take about 30-40% of the dim vote.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29647 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:26 am to
we can only hope
Posted by Mikey P
Gulfport, MS
Member since May 2017
533 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:32 am to
When you do make the change give us your coat size
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1205 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:42 am to
Just be yourself and stop trying to label yourself. I’ve been an independent for 40 years. You get a lot less junk mail that way.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67657 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:48 am to
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Bernie should run as an Ind and that would take about 30-40% of the dim vote.


Schultz would take a about the same. I hope he runs.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 7:53 am to
The newbies on the Left want radical. If that is the direction of the Democratic Party, then moderates should be running to the Right side of the aisle.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19495 posts
Posted on 7/14/19 at 8:23 am to

It’s awful for the GOP to have leftists joining, when their beliefs haven’t changed.

This is how we get RINOs, and a severely weakened party platform that nobody wants to vote for.
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