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re: The last Democrat President that didn’t hate the USA

Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:20 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:20 am to
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Biden's nazi style speech where he called everyone a white supremacist and then mandated covid shite proved he hated the country. Not to mention his Ukraine grift, etc.


Point well taken.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was a turnip.
Posted by Yokelhoma
Member since Jul 2021
259 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:29 am to
And yet none of them urged a mob of their followers to storm the Capitol during the certification of an election.

Anyone who would do that truly hates this country and the Constitution and is just in it for their own ego and power.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55444 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:30 am to
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I was happy that he balanced the budget for a year.

That budget got (fake) balanced due to a confluence of factors that had little to do with Clinton’s initiative.

1. Reagan broke the USSR. With the Cold War over, America drastically reduced defense spending, first during H. W. Bush’s term and then under Clinton.
2. Newt Gingrich and the republicans, took over congress for the first time in over 40 years. Austerity was one of their focuses. They forced a lot of cuts, including major welfare reform, onto a pragmatic, non-ideological Clinton.
3. H. W. Bush had just raised taxes due to a budget shortfall, and Clinton got the resulting revenues.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89001 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:35 am to
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Yokelhoma

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102650 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:37 am to
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Slick Willlie grew on me. I believe that he thought he was helping our country


Bill was a rare combo where he was corrupt and immoral as shite to help himself but still also tried to help the country
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47045 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:38 am to
He'd be seen as a white nationalist and colonizer by his party today.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9129 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:40 am to
Carter didn’t hate the USA during his presidency; he was left of center and inept

Clinton probably didn’t out and out hate the country; he was just an outright amoral crook
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62225 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:40 am to
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Carter was a patriot.


Also a Christian

Since leaving office we voted in fake patriots and fake Christians from both parties (sometimes both) yet disparage Carter for being the real thing in both.

Makes no sense at all



Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65331 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:44 am to
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Slick Willlie grew on me. I believe that he thought he was helping our country

By selling us out to China?

Salon: Traitor in chief

Or his relentless spread of cultural marxism in the form of "political correctness."
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1080 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:44 am to
OP must have something better to do than to post dumb shite online
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33502 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:46 am to
Carter and Bill were decent patriots. Carter was highly ineffective to a point of being a detriment, but that wasn’t intended. Bill actually should be considered a good president historically
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
10004 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:46 am to
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And yet none of them urged a mob



Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55444 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:50 am to
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Jimmah was very much like W: a guy of very average/mediocre street smarts

Jimmy Carter and George W Bush were both very smart men. I’m not sure if you were implying they were dummies or just did not have “street smarts”, but they bth had “smart” smarts.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
10004 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:55 am to

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Also a Christian


Or was he? Just because you say you are or teach Sunday School in a Baptist church doesn’t make you one. Only God knows.


Christians don’t have this opinion about abortion:

Although Carter was personally opposed to abortion, he supported legalized abortion after the landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade.. Early in his term as governor, Carter had strongly supported family planning programs including abortion to save the life of a woman, birth defects, or in other extreme circumstances. Years later, he had written the foreword to a book, Women in Need, that favored a woman's right to abortion. He had given private encouragement to the plaintiffs in a lawsuit, Doe v. Bolton, filed against the state of Georgia to overturn its abortion laws
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20237 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 9:57 am to
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Slick Willlie


‘Had a voice of reason on many of today’s issues. Mental illness, closed borders, budgets and on today’s standards was more conservative than most Republican politicians.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89001 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:00 am to
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Jimmy Carter and George W Bush were both very smart men. I’m not sure if you were implying they were dummies or just did not have “street smarts”, but they bth had “smart” smarts.


I quite literally said average/mediocre street smarts.

Reading comprehension is your friend.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14387 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:12 am to
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Slick Willlie grew on me. I believe that he thought he was helping our country

Hillary thumbing through GOP FBI files.
Perjury.
Creating the bank rules that directly led to the Financial Crash under W
China gate: (Clinton didn’t hate America, but he sold her arse like a $20 hooker on a Saturday night!)
1- "Charlie" Trie made a $450,000 attempted donation to Clinton's legal defense fund. They rejected $70,000 but deposited the rest. Trie and his immediate family donated $220,000 to the DNC.
2- Johnny Chung, born in Taiwan, made 49 separate visits to the White House between February 1994 and February 1996. Also during that time, he donated $366,000 to the DNC, including $35,000 directly from Chinese communist Lt. Col. Lui Chaoying and Chinese military intelligence. During one of the U.S. Commerce Department trade missions to China, Chung befriended Liu Chaoying. Chung testified under oath to the U.S. House Committee investigating the issue in May 1999 that he was introduced to Chinese Gen. Ji Shengde, then the head of Chinese military intelligence, by Liu Chaoying. Chung said that Ji told him: "We like your president very much. We would like to see him reelect. I will give you 300,000 U.S. dollars. You can give it to the president and the Democrat Party."
3- John Huang and James Riady.
John Huang was a former employee of the Indonesian company Lippo Group's Lippo Bank and its owners Mochtar Riady and his son James. Huang became a key fund-raiser within the DNC in 1995. While there, he raised $3.4 million for the party. Nearly half had to be returned when questions arose regarding their source during later investigations by Congress. According to U.S. Secret Service logs, Huang visited the White House 78 times while working as a DNC fund-raiser. James Riady visited the White House 20 times (including six personal visits to President Clinton). Huang worked in President Clinton's Commerce Department as deputy assistant secretary for international economic affairs. His position made him responsible for Asia-U.S. trade matters. He was appointed to the position by President Clinton in December 1993. His position at the Commerce Department gave him access to classified intelligence on China. While at the department, it was later learned, Huang met 9 times with Chinese embassy officials.
4- Maria Hsia was a long time fund raiser for Al Gore, and a business associate of John Huang and James Riady. She facilitated $100,000 in illegal campaign contributions through her efforts at Hsi Lai Temple, a Chinese Buddhist temple associated with Taiwan in Hacienda Heights, California. This money went to the DNC, to the Clinton–Gore campaign, and to U.S. Representative Patrick Kennedy of Rhode Island. After a trial, Hsia was convicted in March 2000. The Temple held a fundraiser event that was attended by Vice President Gore, who claimed he didn’t know they were raising money. Two Buddhist nuns admitted to destroying lists of donors and other documents related to the controversy because they felt the information would embarrass the temple. A Temple-commissioned videotape of the fund raiser also went missing and the nuns' attorney claimed it may have been shipped off to Taiwan. John Huang's memo to Vice President Gore's assistant Kimberly Tilley specifically mentioned that the temple meeting was a fundraising event.
5- Ted Sioeng, an Indonesian entrepreneur donated $250,000 to the DNC. He fell under the same donation investigation. Sieong sat with Bill Clinton or Al Gore at two fundraising events. In full disclosure, he also donated to GOP lawmakers. Clinton’s Attorney General Janet Reno and the directors of the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency (NSA) told members of the Senate committee they had credible intelligence information indicating acted on behalf of China.
6- Bernard L. Schwartz CEO of Loral Space & Communications, a satellite communications company, donated over $600,000 to the Democratic Party. Schwartz said he did not expect, need, or receive any special treatment from the Clinton administration as a result of his donations. In 1998 Loral was under investigation for illegally transferring satellite technology to China. In February 1998 during the time Loral was under investigation, Loral requested Clinton to sign a waiver which would allow Loral to ship satellite technology to China. Clinton's justice department advised against signing the waiver because they believed that a jury wouldn't convict Loral if they received a waiver from Clinton. Clinton did eventually sign the waiver.

YEP, I sure can understand why you developed a warm-fuzzy feeling for Bill “#metoo” Clinton!
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
10004 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:12 am to
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Carter was a patriot


Really?

The story of how Iran went from a reliable pro-West ally to the center of fundamentalist Islamic terror begins with President Jimmy Carter, and his administration’s involvement in the Iranian Revolution.

From the beginning, the Carter Administration expressed disdain for the Shah. President Carter pressed for the release of political prisoners. The Shah complied, allowing many radicals the freedom to openly oppose him.

Not satisfied with the pace or breadth of the Shah’s reforms, Carter envoys began a dialogue with the Ayatollah Khomeini, first at his home in Iraq and more intensely when he moved to a Paris suburb.

The radicalisation of Iran occurred at lightning speed. Khomeini and his lieutenants remade Iran’s government and society into a totalitarian fundamentalist Islamic state. Anyone who opposed their Islamic Revolution were driven into exile, imprisoned, or killed.

Unfortunately, the world continues to pay the price for Carter unleashing Khomeini as the ruler of Iran.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
62225 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:23 am to
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Or was he?


Knew Mr Jimmy personally through Naval Academy and Habitat for Humanity, my Georgia cousins knew him from farming in the state. While I was a nobody and not surrounded by media, he seemed quite real. Of other living and deceased POTUS, I can not make that same claim in real life meetings.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2022 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:24 am to
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Carter was a patriot.


Carter was a leftist cocksucker.
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