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re: The House takes up the Republican replacement bill for OCare| Video | C-SPAN *LIVE STREAM*

Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:06 am to
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:06 am to
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This is the average uneducated persons opinion.


Yeah. Ok.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162309 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:07 am to
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It sure as hell can't possibly be any worse, that's for sure.

True dat. They are the uniparty, but they scream rhetoric (the dems today) instead of solving real concerns with OCare. Both parties and Speaker Ryan are inept slush funding POS. But this is better than what we had snuck in in the middle of the night with OCare, no doubt.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:07 am to
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The American Health Care Act: Your Questions Answered (Part 3) | Speaker.gov


Tell me you aren't this dumb?
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:09 am to
Nice cop out. You can't answer. You just want political theater like most conservatives.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162309 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:09 am to
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It doesn't have the black man's name on it.
That is so damned wrong and you know it. Just when I was agreeing with you that they are all dirtbags (but maybe a handful) wanting their slush funds and raises, POS in DC; you go and pull out the race card like a douche.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:10 am to
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than what we had snuck in in the middle of the night with OCare

At least this time, when the senate gets it, it will actually be a healthcare bill, instead of something totally unrelated that they strip out and fill up with their crap that they admittedly had not read.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162309 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:10 am to
I don't want political theater. I want action.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6758 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:10 am to
You can add the average person in congress as well. Over half don't know what they are voting for or against.

Just because you read something doesn't mean you understand it.

The GOP can just take Ryan, Pence, and Trumps word that this bill is better. The Dems can just take Pelosi at her word that this bill is worse. Makes sense
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6283 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:11 am to
You have people like Cajun and the ole miss fan who can't name single benefits but claim other is worse.. remove voting rights for these people
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:12 am to
I'm just spitballing here because I have yet to see anyone argue the merits of this bill.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:12 am to
You cant articulate why you prefer this bill over ACA. That makes you a partisan shill by definition.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:17 am to
With an actual cost cutting bill, this is how the Speaker should have answered those questions:

I have a pre-existing condition. How does this bill affect me?

Your existing insurance should take care of it...if you dont have insurance...sorry we arent forcing your neighbor to pay for your health

And what about the Upton amendment?


This amendment allows insurance to be purchased across state lines and allows the free market to lower costs and increase options.


Are Members of Congress exempt from this provision?


Nope

Why are you cutting women’s health services?

This is a stupid question. Everyone is free to purchase health services, men and women.

Why are you voting to kick 24 million people off health care?

This bill gives the free market power to provide affordable health care to every single American. No one is going to be denied the ability to purchase health care.

Extra questions

I dont have money and I have lots of health problems, what do I do?


Get a job. If you cant do that ask your neighbors or church to help you pay your bills. There are also privately run charities that help people pay health care bills.

Oh wait...I see that you are 350 lbs and eat and drink mcdonalds and mountain dew all day...stop doing that.

If I have a heart attack and dont have insurance how will I pay the huge hospital bill?

Thats not our problem, sorry. Maybe find a charity or church to help you.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:18 am to
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I agree with you and despise the GOPe too but the replacement is better than the current OCare. As always we have to hold our noses and take what we can until Speaker Ryan resigns.



Please explain the improvements over Obamacare. Linking to Paul Ryan's website is weak. Think for yourself.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:20 am to
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True dat. They are the uniparty, but they scream rhetoric (the dems today) instead of solving real concerns with OCare. Both parties and Speaker Ryan are inept slush funding POS. But this is better than what we had snuck in in the middle of the night with OCare, no doubt.



Seriously, how much of a fricking lemming are you

You realize this modified bill was not released to the public, was not allowed to be scored by any non-partisan analysts?

You can not seriously sit there with a straight face and condemn the Democrats for their process, which took 15 months, did allow access to the bills they amended and let analysts look at it prior to votes.

Paul fricking Ryan cried about making sure the American people have a chance to fully digest any changes to the bill and wrote the CBO about how important it is for them to provide their analysis to aid the public discourse for the ACA.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3445 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:20 am to
Who is the fruit from Rhode Island??
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:21 am to
It gets rid of the mandate and doesn't require me to have maternity in my plan
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:21 am to
She is a typical partisan shill. Farting in the bathtub and giggling.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:21 am to
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True dat.


>24M people losing their insurance due to this vote would disagree with your ignorant, racist arse.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162309 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:22 am to
You never articulate anything, you are a butthurt democrat, nothing more nothing less. I have read the amendment to Ryan's original replacement. This isn't a thread for debate. If it were you wouldn't be a participant because you defend all dems all the time.

I can bash the republicans all day long. You can't critique the dems, you fake you are a moderate. You fool no one.

Articulate for one moment, this...what people are living everyday. With co pays deductibles so high, if you get hit by a truck is the only way you have insurance. With premiums that are ridiculous especially for the middle class that the dems could give two craps about.





and how anything, even if just opening across State lines is not better.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:23 am to
So... You still aren't going to answer? You are watching CSPAN all day and dont even know why you support the bill?

Please tell me you arent raising any children.
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