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re: The GOP wants to add $3T to the debt

Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1620 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:39 am to
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It happened with Reagan, too. When he cut taxes the tax revenues went up


But it didn't. Please show me the data where government revenue increased because of the Regan and Trump tax cuts. It simply isn't true. I'm all for paying less in taxes, but it has to come with a massive, massive reduction in spending.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20826 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:39 am to
quote:

You balance a budget by spending less

Yes, AND by growing the economy, which increases revenue.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:41 am to
Are you a retard?

Seriously.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19141 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:41 am to
Okay. As long as they cut taxes on my social security.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
1381 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:43 am to
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OysterPoBoy



Pretty sure the tax cuts are over 10 years while the spending cuts are per year. If add 4.5T over 10 years (.45 T per year) while cutting 1.5T per year, you are actually Cutting spending by 1.05T per year.
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1175 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:45 am to
Cry more. Your tears are delicious.
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2882 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:47 am to
quote:

This board is preoccupied with the conman's misdirection

The debt is shifting to a new swamp
Elon will make out like a bandit

But he's sucked billions from us for over a decade
It's Trump derangement to think otherwise


Ahh the old false equivalency argument..but this time even more bullshite because its not even comaparing something that has happened with something else that happened that is not equal to it..it is something else that is "oh trust me guys, our swamp is just a drop in the bucket, but this guy exposing our fricking fleecing of you ..well HE IS THE REAL VILLAIAN and he is going to do something way way worse and man you guys will look like fools. BWAHAHAH YOU GUYS ARE DUMB" comparison.

Get the frick out of here man. Here let me post it for you

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16621 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:50 am to
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A little breaking news here—-

A balanced budget really doesn’t matter.

It’s all imaginary.

Fairy dust.

We are paying interest on $37T of debt.

We paid more in interest charges than we did on defense.

Whoever cut a check for 30% of our 2024 tax revenue to go to cover that debt didnt think it was imaginary fairy dust.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:51 am to
DOGE should make this easy.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
1381 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:54 am to
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Tmcgin



To put things in perspective. Musk is currently worth 406 Billion. Assuming an average 5% return on investment and he lives 40 more years to 93, Musk would have to spend 63 Million dollars a day (23 Billion dollars a year), every day for the next 40 years to run out of money. He's not in this for the money.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:54 am to
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Pretty sure the tax cuts are over 10 years while the spending cuts are per year. If add 4.5T over 10 years (.45 T per year) while cutting 1.5T per year, you are actually Cutting spending by 1.05T per year.


No point in trying to explain numbers to people. Politicians, pundits and other partisans throw out a financial number and everyone immediately accepts or rejects it based on some pre-conceived belief. Practically nobody ever cares enough to attempt to verify numbers/statistics or even understand what they mean. Otherwise, it would have been immediately obvious to everyone in the thread that $4.5 trillion in annual tax cuts would essentially eliminate all federal revenue.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65900 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:55 am to
He wants to cut 4.5 trillion in taxes per year?? frick yea
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
7479 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:56 am to
quote:

A little breaking news here—- A balanced budget really doesn’t matter.


A little reality here. Inflation is fricking me, it’s fricking you too. One of us is too stupid to understand it, and why we have it
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2280 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:56 am to
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Please show me the data where government revenue increased because of the Regan and Trump tax cuts.


LINK

The gov has constantly taken in more money, It has in some years gone down some. "because of the tax cuts" who knows, but it shows that you can have tax cuts and bring in more money too.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 11:59 am
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5346 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:58 am to
Tax cuts increase revenues . It is always a spending problem.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3527 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:59 am to
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The last Trump tax cut took money out of the unproductive government's hands and put it into the people's hands and the productive economy. The result was a net rise in tax revenue. Funny how that works.


Paying off 38 trillion in debt isn’t unproductive. And it’s a valid use of that money, as much as I’d like to continue to benefit from that tax cut, we need to handle this.

If we do not get real f*cking serious about it we are cooked
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:59 am to
quote:


A balanced budget really doesn’t matter.


Are you saying this 36t of debt hasnt caused inflation?
Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
139 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:00 pm to
You do realize that the information you posted doesn’t support your argument. It shows decreased tax revenue due to tax cuts and points that out in the article.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107737 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:01 pm to
It is proven that tax cuts increase revenues.

It's not a zero sum game.

You also ignore tax receipts from tarriffs.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6843 posts
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:01 pm to
TCJA raised more revenue than was projected under prior law, doubled the standard deduction, doubled the child tax credit, capped SALT, and made the income tax more progessive as the share of income tax burden paid by the top 5, 1, and .1% all increased, while every group below saw their share decrease.
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