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re: The Globalists Have Taken A Big Hit Over the Past 24 Hours.....

Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:36 am to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:36 am to
quote:

If the argument is that China/Russia are the big proponents of globalism, we are going to need an entirely new definition of "globalism"
You certainly are going to have to redefine globalism if you are going to put China and Russia in the globalism camp. Because they certainly see it differently than most, as in they will define the way they like it.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4606 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:44 am to
globalism or full spectrum dominance?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Heres some reading


You're baiting and switching.

That's the traditional definition of globalism and not the malleable/weird one MAGA created/uses.

If you're defining "globalism" as, effectively, voluntary international agreements, then Trump is perhaps the biggest globalist in international politics. His tariff scheme to renegotiate every trade deal is one of the most expensive acts of globalism (using that terminology) since WW2.

You think OP made a thread to talk about Trump taking a bit hit the part 24 hours? Explain.

quote:

Neither of which gave an eff about driving capitalism

Who is talking about capitalism?

In fact, the MAGA version projects something else.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:35 am to
That X post reinforces my argument

quote:

Putin’s Special Envoy, who posts Q drops on X, in a meeting with President Putin, U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and Kushner, President Trump’s SIL.

“What if China, Russia and others are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?”


The whole MAGA "globalism" argument typically involves Russia opposing it, because, it's almost assured the narrative emerged from Russia and they filtered it through their content creators to MAGA types a long time ago (Although I'd wager the original conceptualization of the term, and likely its use within Russia today, is much more focused on Jewish people than how MAGA adopted it).

China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc. are/were the ones fighting the "globalists"/NWO/Deep State"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:35 am to
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The globalist want one world government control. Russia/china/iran want to be left alone to control and govern their own citizens


See he gets the gist of MAGA's use of "globalism"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:37 am to
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Slow, why did you ignore this post?


It mostly agrees with my argument. Very little to correct. No need to reply to it.

Go back to the first words (that you left out) of the post. I'll repeat it:

SFP"

quote:

Russia/China/Iran are the triumvirate opposing globalism. Venezuela was one of their proxies.


Him:

quote:

You are correct.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44433 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:39 am to
Today I learned that regime change in foreign countries is anti globalism.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:42 am to
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Today I learned that regime change in foreign countries is anti globalism.


Specifically, regime change in anti-globalist countries.

Regime change in a country opposing globalism is...anti-globalist?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:44 am to
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7022 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:47 am to
So every nation on earth isn't still a consumer slave to the industrial might of an aggressive communist nation? We still aren't the world's chief exporter of warfare which we export frequently, regardless of who is in the White House? Oil wasn't seized from another oil rich nation by the globalist's number one paid bully? (The U.S.)

shite, globalism has never been better. And we can now stop pretending Trump doesn't march to their tune, same as the rest.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:50 am to
quote:

Regime change in a country opposing globalism is...anti-globalist?


Hey if men can be women and Liberty can be fascism why can’t anti globalism be globalism?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91528 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:59 am to
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Go back to the first words (that you left out) of the post. I'll repeat it:
Why you have to lie?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:02 am to
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Hey if men can be women and Liberty can be fascism why can’t anti globalism be globalism?


Look my whole point for going on 9 years is that "globalism" has such a malleable definition it means nothing. You're talking my jive, now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:03 am to
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Why you have to lie?

Sorry I did not see it.

But that is the answer to your question. I'm not going to quote his post to reply no YOU are correct
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91528 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Regime change in a country opposing globalism is...anti-globalist?
Certainly room for it, yes.

If “globalists” enjoy a festering wound like Venezuela to exist, and for it to weaken the United States, and we take them out, we have now taken out some anti globalists while also pwning some globalists.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91528 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Sorry I did not see it.
I know, I was just messing with you I know you didn’t lie about it.
quote:

But that is the answer to your question. I'm not going to quote his post to reply no YOU are correct
But he described how taking out anti globalist Venezuela can be defeat for the globalists.

And you’ve previously acted like that’s poppycock.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:08 am to
quote:

If “globalists” enjoy a festering wound like Venezuela to exist, and for it to weaken the United States[/quote]

The bold is a major leap like Iraqi WMDs.

[quote] we have now taken out some anti globalists while also pwning some globalists.

Which globalists? You used the word enjoy but I think you meant something like allow. Globalists have wanted regime change in Venezuela for a long time, but it wasn't possible/tenable for a bunch of reasons. Without the US, Venezuela is like the South American version of Ukraine.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:11 am to
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You're talking my jive, now.


Credit where due but don’t get used to it, Not-funny El Gaucho.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89814 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:12 am to
China engages in economic globalism.

Denying that just makes you wrong.

quote:

Leaders like Xi Jinping have defended globalization in speeches (e.g., at Davos in 2017), positioning China as a champion of free trade amid Western protectionism. The BRI, launched in 2013, is a massive infrastructure project connecting China to over 150 countries, promoting trade, investment, and connectivity—often described as “globalization with Chinese characteristics” or a “win-win” model.


At least come with a better argument.

This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 8:14 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:17 am to
You need to define globalism better. Is it people and markets under one unified sovereign or is it people and markets under separate sovereigns with hegemons competing for access to those markets to sell goods and trade?

I don’t see anyone serious advocating for the former; the latter is the reality of the world.
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