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re: The fire investigation will be a giant PC coverup... "sources" already claiming electrical

Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by Mfdtiger
Deatsville, Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
817 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:36 pm to
I am no defender of the extremist, but as a firefighter when I saw the construction rafters, I felt it was construction related. A lot of times copper pipes are sweated in interior walls. If you are not extremely careful a small ember will smolder for hours and eventually catch. Would not be surprised if this is what happened here.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:36 pm to
“Completed” may have been the wrong word, but even so, why are sauces already leaking electrical cause when it’s obvious that an investigation is still pending.

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:37 pm to
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There were crews all over the structure working on a massive renovation at the time the fire started.


And you know this how? The church closed at 6:30 pm and the fire was reported 15 minutes later. Do the French work that late?
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17838 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:37 pm to
The French have their issues but when you attack their culture they will not be idle. They are still among the most nationalist peoples on this earth. Whatever the truth is will come out.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:38 pm to
Maybe.... but we do know that last year 900 churches were attacked. We also know several were burned.

This year, Norte Dame has been subject of several attacks
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:39 pm to
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ething pertinent here? From every account it appears to be accidental.



You're missing common sense and listening to the PC propaganda.







Nobody investigates a fire until it's out and the building is overhauled. Anyone that says different is a fricking liar.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9957 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:41 pm to
Does it really matter what the sources say? poliboard has already decided and not a damn thing will change it
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:44 pm to
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There were crews all over the structure working on a massive renovation at the time the fire started. The entire Cathedral was surrounded by scaffolding. Perhaps someone was nearby when something arced.



That still does not seem plausible.
If someone was right there and actually saw the point of ignition, how was it not dealt with before the fire became so large as to be unstoppable?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:44 pm to
Liberals being bedfellows is the strangest pairing imaginable. I guess it is the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” thing? I don’t get it. At all.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Does it really matter what the sources say? poliboard has already decided and not a damn thing will change it


It really is odd to see the same "side" that lambasted the DEMs for claiming to KNOW there was collusion and then having an investigation prove them wrong...NOW wants to declare a KNOWN prior to any investigation.


JEEBUS. Have we become so impatient that we can't let the fire go out before we demand retribution?


Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28544 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:47 pm to
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If someone was right there and actually saw the point of ignition, how was it not dealt with before the fire became so large as to be unstoppable?


None of us know anything concrete. But the wood in the structure was hundreds of years old. Fire could spread as quickly as it used to spread in old plantation houses. It's such a tragedy. I'm glad I was fortunate enough to have gone there a couple of times. Hopefully the rebuild will take a hundred or so fewer years than the original build.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110903 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Liberals being bedfellows is the strangest pairing imaginable. I guess it is the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” thing? I don’t get it. At all.



It's odd how many seem to take as a personal affront, any suggestion or even speculation, that muslims might have done something bad.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:48 pm to
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poliboard has already decided


Not all of us but I do question the haste of their speculation of an electrical fire. It's not even out yet.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:48 pm to
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The French have their issues but when you attack their culture they will not be idle.


How has that shown itself to be true in recent times with the influx of "refugees" and the establishment of "no go zones"??
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28544 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:50 pm to
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It's odd how many seem to take as a personal affront, any suggestion or even speculation, that muslims might have done something bad.


No, that isn't it. We are offended that right wing assholes will use the tragedy of the fire as an opportunity to vomit hate screeds.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18740 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:50 pm to
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That still does not seem plausible. If someone was right there and actually saw the point of ignition, how was it not dealt with before the fire became so large as to be unstoppable?


And just like that a conspiracy is born.

Just make a statement that no one can disprove and voila!
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138898 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:51 pm to
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We are offended that right wing assholes will use the tragedy of the fire as an opportunity to vomit hate screeds.

Good thing y'all don't use fake hate crimes to pass federal legislation...
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8933 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:52 pm to
So I am a conservative Catholic.

I don't see how it isn't possible this was an accident. Old building like that aren't designed not to burn.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:52 pm to
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It's odd how many seem to take as a personal affront, any suggestion or even speculation, that muslims might have done something bad.



frick moose-limbs. But, I am fair-minded enough to desire evidence before vengeance.


If you want to hate Islamic asshats on general principle, I am with you. If you want to say "they" burned this building down...I need evidence.


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