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re: The CEO of the company with the missing sub refused to hire qualified crew
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:26 am to Flats
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:26 am to Flats
Flats, I am hardly an expert, but I have been a scuba diver for more than 35 years and obviously had some training about pressure depth and decompression as part of that process. I'm gonna go with you on this one.
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:26 am to Codythetiger
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I'm reading this like your suggestioning that divers dive to depth of miles under the sea level
Nah, 1000-1200 feet is about it. The French are messing with hydrogen as an inert gas instead of helium, but I don't know how deep they've gone with it.
The point isn't the depth, the point is that the human body is largely incompressible. Like I said, press a water balloon to 30 feet or 30,000 feet; it doesn't care.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:29 am to Flats
quote:I know that you are simplifying, but (using your water balloon as an example) don't you eventually reach a point of compressing to such an extent that the membrane fails? Would the same not be true of cell membranes?
Like I said, press a water balloon to 30 feet or 30,000 feet; it doesn't care.
Honest question. I have ZERO idea of the answer, but it seems logical.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:31 am to Hobnailboot
Yep ... and CNN will cover that minute by minute and ask stupid questions of guests and mislead their audience to avoid the obvious. It is just a matter of time.
... on a side note ... I'm guessing there is not a law/regulation that allows the passengers to see the qualifications of the pilot flying the plane. That would help fix the problem.
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"I’m sure this is coming to an airline near you."
... on a side note ... I'm guessing there is not a law/regulation that allows the passengers to see the qualifications of the pilot flying the plane. That would help fix the problem.
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"I’m sure this is coming to an airline near you."
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:32 am to Flats
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Like I said, press a water balloon to 30 feet or 30,000 feet; it doesn't care.
What about a water balloon in the center of 2,400 cubic feet of air that is reduced to 6 cubic feet in an instant?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:44 am to anc
A qualified crew would probably never work for him? I don’t know anything about submersibles, but that thing looked dangerous.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
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What about a water balloon in the center of 2,400 cubic feet of air that is reduced to 6 cubic feet in an instant?
That doesn’t change anything. As you noted water isn’t completely, 100% incompressible so the balloon shrinks by a percent or two; that’s about it.
People don’t think hydraulics be like it is, but it do.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:49 am to AggieHank86
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but I have been a scuba diver for more than 35 years
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:00 am to Flats
As a diver flats makes sense but I'm not an expert. 125 is deepest I've been.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:09 am to Schleynole
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As a diver flats makes sense but I'm not an expert. 125 is deepest I've been.
The record for weighted free dive stuff is 702 feet; that’s about a 20x reduction in volume for any air voids. He doesn’t shrink on the way down and expand on the way up. His lung cavity might be noticeably sunk in at depth but that’s about it, and I don’t know if that’s visibly noticeable or not, I’m just speculating.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:09 am to Flats
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That doesn’t change anything. As you noted water isn’t completely, 100% incompressible so the balloon shrinks by a percent or two; that’s about it.
People don’t think hydraulics be like it is, but it do.
I guess, what I'm trying to explain with the words instant, rate and implosion...is the rate of change.
That is the driving force.
I 100% agree with you if the pressure is increase from 0 to 6000 psig in 1 minute. That is a slow rate. But when it is increased at rates in miro and nanoseconds a compression wave is developed and between the peaks and troughs of the compression wave tremendous forces are generated that do the damage.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:28 am to anc
What I haven't seen is the discussion of...who is being off'd first if they are still alive in that sub. If there is only enough oxygen for another 24 hrs given the X number of people that are consuming it....I would imagine that there has to be some fear of being the first one to fall asleep. My money would be on the father and son forming an alliance to make that supply last as long as possible
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:48 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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wow
It is still sad, but wow.
I'm honestly astonished at the lack of preparation for "in the event of unexpected circumstances" in these submarine missions.
How hard would it be to have an Independent powered backup gps and sonar "beacon" system on these subs in the event that something catastrophic went wrong? Could easily be pinpointed and retrieved by an R.O.V. sub with a strong retractable safety line attached all the way to a surface vessel.
If no fail-safes like this were in place to begin with, I have to ask myself if these people that went down were misled, ignorant or just stupid.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:01 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Go woke go missing.
Go woke go under
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:04 pm to anc
I recently read about another effect of diversity. The average IQ in America is no longer 100. It's 98. But don't despair. Jews are smart. But Israel's IQ is now 97. They have diversity, too. Palestinians.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:06 pm to TigerAxeOK
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How hard would it be
Not hard at all, but it would cost more money. He was trying to do this entire project as cheaply as possible.
I think he did have a chirper of some sort but it probably didn't have an independent power supply because they can't hear it. If the hull crapped the bed then the power supplying the chirper probably did as well. Sounds like redundancy was too expensive.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:19 pm to anc
My guess is that there are a ton of 50yr old white guys trying to save his arse now.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:30 pm to superwolf
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My guess is that there are a ton of 50yr old white guys trying to save his arse now.
Yeah, the maritime world doesn't have a ton of diversity in the northern hemisphere.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:33 pm to anc
First ever DEI sub?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:39 pm to Flats
The more they are finding out about this the worse it gets. This guy’s ego was off the charts. He threw people’s lives away for no good reason. He should have reserved his suicide mission for himself alone. How dumb do you have to be to follow this guy?
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