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re: The case for Trump’s tariffs looks strong a year on from ‘liberation day’
Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:48 am to jizzle6609
Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:48 am to jizzle6609
quote:One of us! One of us! One of us!
Having brilliant and disciplined boomer parents can pay off.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:51 am to NC_Tigah
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The case for Trump’s tariffs looks strong a year on from ‘liberation day
Always was strong.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:58 am to Aubie Spr96
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Here’s a non-opinion piece with cited sources, graphs, etc.
Cato
Best comment. Just a few bullet points…
quote:
1. The “global” tariffs became riddled with exemptions
2. Tariff-related lobbying exploded
3. The tariffs raised prices
4. Trade policy uncertainty skyrocketed
5. The US tariff system became significantly more complex and opaque
6. Manufacturing jobs did not boom and, in fact, kept declining
7. The US trade deficit did not decline
8. Other countries are deepening trade ties without the United States
9. Tariff-related litigation has surged
10. Foreign investment did not boom
11. Economic growth has slowed, even with AI tailwinds
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 7:59 am
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:03 am to mindbreaker
quote:Now THAT's a melt!
Grocery prices have doubled in the last five years. My gas bill has doubled in the past year alone. We have seen record gas increases because we started a war on behalf of another country. But let's ignore that AMERICA FIRST shite from 6 months ago. Because Trump can do no wrong.
Now you want to suck his orange dick over what amounts to less than half a fricking cent. Trump, Republicans, Democrats, it doesn't matter they are all corrupt people that haven't stepped foot in a grocery store in years and have no idea how we live.
But yeah keep blaming immigrants, and poor people, and the military, and farmers, and construction workers, all the while the middle class keeps getting destroyed. While they are manipulating you to worry about who should play sports, use the right bathroom, or be allowed in the country while they are lining their pockets with money they take from us
Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:08 am to NC_Tigah
Libertarian CATO sourcing Harvard studies to discount Trump achievements.
The trade deficit April 25 to Feb 26 is down 24%
Capital investment is at an all time high.
Inflation is at 2.4% which is impossible if tariffs were being passed to the consumer. And using a temu stuffed toy and extrapolating it to the entire global trading system is nonsense.
Employment numbers. The fed govt laid off 350K people. 2 million plus illegals have gone home, most of which were given SS# and were being picked up by the BLS. Im surprised we show any positive job growth, it means American citizens are replacing illegals faster than we are sending them home.
Know how this is true? Feb 25 to Feb 26 real wage growth occurred after falling for 25 straight months under biden. Particularly on lower wage jobs. Companies do not give wage increases above inflation when there are plenty of unemployed looking for work.
Yes you are paying far more for goods than you were four years ago due to inflation under biden, but prices are not going to drop folks. If they did you will see deflation, which Japan has experienced for over a decade and china is desperately battling now, in a losing battle.
The economy is strong and is set to have a banner year. Frankly Im amazed at all he has put in place in such a short time after the big hole we were in.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:19 am to DeathByTossDive225
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Here’s a non-opinion piece
Here's another:
The Total US Trade Deficit is Down 54%
US exports are up 11.3%
quote:
As of early April 2026, the U.S. trade balance has undergone a significant shift compared to the previous year. Most notably, the trade deficit has sharply narrowed over the last 12 months following a period of record highs in early 2025.
The following breakdown compares the most recent data (year-to-date 2026 and the 2025 peak) against the preceding 12-month period.
As of early April 2026, the U.S. trade balance has undergone a significant shift compared to the previous year. Most notably, the trade deficit has sharply narrowed over the last 12 months following a period of record highs in early 2025.
The following breakdown compares the most recent data (year-to-date 2026 and the 2025 peak) against the preceding 12-month period.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:32 am to IMSA_Fan
Posted on 4/3/26 at 10:49 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:
Here’s a non-opinion piece with cited sources, graphs, etc.
Out of their 10 or so points, only 3 have anything to do with the real effects of tariffs, and it took them until point 3 to actually mention one.
One of their points was "uncertainty." There is nothing measurable about "uncertainty." And you claim it's not an opinion piece.
They also point out that tariff lobbying has increased. And? Lobbying has always been out of control. It's pretty stupid to blame tariffs for this. It's also dumb to not think those dollars wouldn't have been spent lobbying otherwise. It's simply a shift in lobbying priorities.
They also say that tariff exemptions expanded. Why are people who are against tariffs complaining about exemptions? Because they know people who can't think for themselves won't recognize the hypocrisy. They needed something to fill out the article because there wasn't enough points to make. That makes it a propaganda piece.
They also talk about mfg jobs and foreign investments dropping. The impact of tariffs in this regard was never going to be instant. It was always going to take time to see the effects, so complaining that it hasn't happened in such a short period of time, in addition to all the bullshite lawsuits filed every time Trump sneezes, is retarded. I can't take an article seriously if they don't understand the reality of time tables.
They also talked about tariff litigation increasing. This is to be expected. We live in a litigious society and people sue over everything. This is caused by a shitty legal system, not tariffs. We had people sue Trump for performing mundane executive tasks, so this argument is just pointless.
What you posted is just opinionated slop. But it says what you want to hear, so you didn't bother to challenge the ideas presented in the slightest.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:14 am to IMSA_Fan
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I mean job growth has been atrocious
Hmmmmmm???
When reading below, consider Trump cut over 270,000 federal government jobs.
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The U.S. economy added 178,000 jobs in March 2026, exceeding expectations and rebounding from a weak February, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The unemployment rate ticked down to 4.3%. Job growth was largely driven by gains in healthcare and a return of workers from strikes, alongside gains in construction and transportation, marking a volatile yet resilient labor market.
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 11:17 am
Posted on 4/3/26 at 11:56 am to lake chuck fan
quote:
I mean job growth has been atrocious
Hmmmmmm???
When reading below, consider Trump cut over 270,000 federal government jobs.
I think he is talking about manufacturing jobs, which you said tariffs would create.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:00 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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4. Trade policy uncertainty skyrocketed
True.
Previously I was certain that China was going to destroy the American economy.
Now…not so much.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:04 pm to frogtown
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I think he is talking about manufacturing jobs, which you said tariffs would create.
No doubt.
Factories are usually constructed quite quickly.
I mean, I have built three last week alone.
On another note, have you come to grips with Kemp being a WEF stooge that turned a blind eye to Georgia being stolen in 2020 yet?
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:05 pm to frogtown
quote:The expectation was never, never, never that the impact on manufacturing would be immediate. Were you under a contrary mistaken impression? The expectation is that those impacts will take place in the 18 to 36 month timeframe.
I think he is talking about manufacturing jobs, which you said tariffs would create.
Posted on 4/3/26 at 12:18 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
Article cites sources, shows actual data in the form of charts and graphs….
TenWheelsForJesus:
TenWheelsForJesus:
quote:
What you posted is just opinionated slop
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:18 pm to mindbreaker
quote:
But yeah keep blaming immigrants
Remove 10 million (I’d prefer 50 million) aliens and watch the price of EVERYTHING drop drastically including government expenditures. You don’t seem very bright
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:27 pm to jimmy the leg
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Factories are usually constructed quite quickly. I mean, I have built three last week alone.
This is such a crock of shite.
Why is a lack of new factories to blame for manufacturing jobs continuing to decline?
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:32 pm to Cito2point0
quote:Figure don't lie, but liars figure. TenWheelsForJesus shredded that piece.
Article cites sources, shows actual data in the form of charts and graphs….
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:39 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Here's another:
quote:
Most notably, the trade deficit has sharply narrowed over the last 12 months following a period of record highs in early 2025.
The entirety of 25 was a record high
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:47 pm to slackster
quote:We actually had small gains in Jan and March which is unusual in a sea of declining numbers. Could those be an outlier? Absolutely. Could they be sentinels? They could be.
Why is a lack of new factories to blame for manufacturing jobs continuing to decline?
Posted on 4/3/26 at 1:50 pm to Powerman
quote:Not true, of course. But don't let that stop you.
The entirety of 25 was a record high
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