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re: The Atlantic: the great affordability crisis breaking America

Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:58 am to
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Doesn’t necessarily mean to a completely different market.

People who work in Manhattan can live in Joisey or Connecticut.


Sure there is some choice involved here

You don't have to live in the greatest neighborhood just because you work in the proximity. There are other options if you don't mind commuting. I'm just saying that these real estate markets aren't the result of taxation. They're the result of the market.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37488 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:58 am to
Any centrally located place in all those cities are also very pricey. Wanting to live in the middle of where everyone else also wants to live is always pricey.

Some cities do the residents no favor however by limiting development height and placing unnecessary restrictions on residency amounts.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 9:01 am
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:00 am to
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quote:

Um.. move?

To where there is no opportunity for your skills?


If you can only ply your trade in downtown SF or NYC then you have chosen poorly and you must therefore pay the price the piper demands.

Supply. And. Demand.

Highly desirable skillset and education, paired with universal applicability and high demand = geographic and lifestyle freedom.

Tough concept.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37488 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:00 am to
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100% financing at 3%?


Damn son where have you gotten this? I’ve seen 100% financing but that was at 4+%
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162213 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:00 am to
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Do you think these homes would be as big and expensive if you couldn’t arrange 100% financing at 3%?


You think these homes are big?
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:00 am to
"sub"-urbanization and better public transport solves this

people, namely millennials, need to get their heads out of their asses and realize they don't need to live in city centers, buying $8 starbucks coffee (which sucks) every day.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101360 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:00 am to
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I'm just saying that these real estate markets aren't the result of taxation. They're the result of the market.



Ehhh, sort of. There are a whole lot of market distortions (mostly governmental) that come with urban real estate in most of those areas, though.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:01 am to
I really love affordable KC housing.
Posted by TigerWoodlands
The Woodlands
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:01 am to
Major liberal cities are all the author knows anything about?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162213 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:02 am to
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If you can only ply your trade in downtown SF or NYC then you have chosen poorly and you must therefore pay the price the piper demands.

Supply. And. Demand.

Highly desirable skillset and education, paired with universal applicability and high demand = geographic and lifestyle freedom.

Tough concept.

So elite software engineers can find gainful employment in New Orleans?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45726 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:02 am to
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Taxes are almost irrelevant in this discussion.
Wrong. Higher values (assessed by a public official) = higher property taxes to feed the liberal machine.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162213 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:04 am to
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Wrong. Higher values (assessed by a public official) = higher property taxes to feed the liberal machine.


But that has nothing to do with the purchase or appraised prices of the homes

You simply are not going to find a home in SF Bay area that you would consider a reasonable price compared to the rest of the country
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21743 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:04 am to
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Maybe ask yourself what % of the population lives in these 10 cities?


It’s not big enough, thankfully, to impose their idiocy on the rest of us.

It IS big enough, apparently, that they have a housing shortage and they can’t figure out that their policies caused it. In any event that would be a “liberal metro area” crisis, not a national one.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45726 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:06 am to
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But that has nothing to do with the purchase or appraised prices of the homes
So you don't think a public official would be pressured to keep property assessments (tax base) higher and higher every year to feed the fatted cow?
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:08 am to
Reading is fundamental

quote:

Highly desirable skillset and education, paired with universal applicability and high demand = geographic and lifestyle freedom.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:11 am to
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Um.. move?


When they do, they bring their liberal views with them.

That's why Collin County TX is more blue than Denton County, even though the latter has two liberal universities within it.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:12 am to
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Maybe ask yourself what % of the population lives in these 10 cities?


What does that have to do with this being a problem narrowly focused in large urban coastal metropolises, specifically in the highest priced parts of those urban areas? Are you stupid?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123869 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:12 am to
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In Manhattan, listings for sale now ask an average of nearly $1,800 per square foot.
That's steep. A 555 SqFt apt for $1m?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64319 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:14 am to
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. The housing cost crises in the Bay Area and New York might be the country’s most obscene.


I can't afford Tiffanys either. So I don't go in. Is this a national crisis now?
Posted by Number 9 Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
681 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:15 am to
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The price of housing represents the most acute part of this crisis. In metro areas such as the Bay Area, Seattle, and Boston, severe supply shortages have led to soaring prices—millions of low- and middle-income families are no longer able to purchase centrally located homes.


Supply and demand
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