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The Atlantic really mad at Twitter. They have no answer for #DiedSuddenly.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:33 pm
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The Twitter account @DiedSuddenly_, which has about 250,000 followers, also started tweeting about it immediately, using the hashtag #DiedSuddenly. Over the past several months, news stories about any kind of sudden death or grave injury—including the death of the sports journalist Grant Wahl and the sudden collapse of the Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin—have been met with a similar reaction from anti-vaccine activists. Though most of the incidents had obvious explanations and almost certainly no connection to the vaccine, which has an extremely remote risk of causing heart inflammation—much smaller than the risk from COVID-19 itself—the idea that the shots are causing mass death has been boosted by right-wing media figures and a handful of well-known professional athletes.
They are supported by a recent video,
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Died Suddenly has been viewed nearly 20 million times and cheered on by far-right personalities such as Marjorie Taylor Greene and Candace Owens.
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But “died suddenly” thrives on Twitter. Tweets referencing news stories about unexpected deaths can be flooded with replies trumpeting the conspiracy theory, which go unmoderated. It’s a radical change from the earlier years of the pandemic, during which Twitter implemented new policies against health misinformation and updated them regularly, gradually finessing the wording and clarifying how the company assessed misleading information. These policies and the tactics used to enforce them tightened as the pandemic went on.
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:37 pm to GumboPot
The Atlantic receives Soros money.
Enough said.
Enough said.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:38 pm to GumboPot
quote:as the narrative began to change they mean. No the shot doesn't prevent infection. No it does't prevent transmission. No it doesn't prevent death. So let's tighten our tactics to prevent any discussion not approved by the ministries of truth
These policies and the tactics used to enforce them tightened as the pandemic went on.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:54 pm to GumboPot
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replies trumpeting the conspiracy theory, which go unmoderated.
The left's messaging is incredibly consistent. They jump straight past the debate about the accuracy of the story and go straight to "we need to moderate it".
If it's a conspiracy theory, they should publish studies showing these random deaths and who is vax'd among other things.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:32 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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The left's messaging is incredibly consistent.
The Left's audience are insane, angry little sheep.
There is no need for consistency, only to feed the hate machine.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:34 am to GumboPot
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Though most of the incidents had obvious explanations and almost certainly no connection to the vaccine, which has an extremely remote risk of causing heart inflammation—much smaller than the risk from COVID-19 itself
100% pure conjecture
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:45 am to Vacherie Saint
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100% pure conjecture
So is the criticism of the vaccine. I keep pointing this out: almost none of us knows anyone who has had a problem with the vaccine. Sure, you'll get some yo-yos who will say otherwise on an anonymous message board when it can't be substantiated. But ask your friends.
I don't know of a single case, besides one old man who died the week after he was vaccinated with his first dose, but he had covid, too.
The spike protein in the vaccine seems to cause short duration inflammation. My SIL is a Radiologist, and she says they see a lot of it in lymph nodes, so she has reduced - but not eliminated - the frequency of her booster shots.
Covid also has a spike protein, and it causes inflammation at a much higher rate than the vaccine. So it's nonsense to claim that the vaccine is responsible for the bulk of these cases in which someone died suddenly with heart inflammation. Some? Sure, that's likely.
The real argument against the vaccine is not that it's deadly, but that it's ineffective, and never should have been mandated.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 7:46 am
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:47 am to Penrod
Anti Vaxxers are tiresome people
With minuscule sample size data
With minuscule sample size data
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:48 am to Tmcgin
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Anti Vaxxers are tiresome people
What do you consider to be an anti-vaxxer?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:49 am to GumboPot
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Though most of the incidents had obvious explanations and almost certainly no connection to the vaccine, which has an extremely remote risk of causing heart inflammation—much smaller than the risk from COVID-19 itself—the idea that the shots are causing mass death has been boosted by right-wing media figures and a handful of well-known professional athletes.
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The Atlantic really mad at Twitter. They have no answer for #DiedSuddenly.
The answer is literally in the first paragraph above
You're just intent on being stupid
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:50 am to Penrod
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keep pointing this out: almost none of us knows anyone who has had a problem with the vaccine. Sure, you'll get some yo-yos who will say otherwise on an anonymous message board when it can't be substantiated. But ask your friends.
bullshite. I know several middle aged people who had heart issues and a few old ones that died.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:50 am to Penrod
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but that it's ineffective, and never should have been mandated.
And because of the protection provided by natural antibodies and the fact there are risk factors, suggesting those already with covid get vaccinated is malpractice
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:53 am to GumboPot
The Atlantic is leftist propaganda
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:55 am to Penrod
quote:The “died suddenly” thing is concerning to a lot of people, but the anti-vax sentiment extends beyond sudden death. Many people have had severe adverse reactions to getting the shot that go well beyond the protective benefit the victims were promised. I know of several people personally who have had strokes or other major issues that presented shortly after getting the vaccine.
So is the criticism of the vaccine
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 8:02 am
Posted on 1/25/23 at 7:56 am to Penrod
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so she has reduced - but not eliminated - the frequency of her booster shots.
Your SIL is an idiot.
By your own words.
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it's ineffective
Who the hell has a frequency for booster shots for this "vaccine"?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:27 am to Penrod
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So is the criticism of the vaccine. I keep pointing this out: almost none of us knows anyone who has had a problem with the vaccine. Sure, you'll get some yo-yos who will say otherwise on an anonymous message board when it can't be substantiated. But ask your friends.
It isn’t fully substantiated because public health authorities aren’t forcing it to be tested and many of the major platforms for publishing the research won’t touch it.
You can’t “prove” causation without testing, but a lack of testing doesn’t preclude cause.
Myocarditis and other cardiac issues are skyrocketing. Evidence suggests mortality is way up as well. These are hugely significant problems.
Suggesting that the mandated vaccine might be the cause isn’t an unreasonable hypothesis and if we had scientists rather than activists running the FDA they would be demanding answers as well.
This could be handled in 3-6 months conclusively by conducting a clinical trial comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated people for myocarditis, signs of blood clots and evaluating major health issues over the last 24 months.
None of that is happening. Is that not at all strange to you? They force studies for minimal AEs related to other approved drugs routinely yet the FDA isn’t interested at all with this?
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 8:33 am
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:31 am to GumboPot
I think the "died suddenly" stuff is idiotic, but I am all for it if it pisses the Atlantic off.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:11 am to tide06
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This could be handled in 3-6 months conclusively by conducting a clinical trial comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated people for myocarditis, signs of blood clots and evaluating major health issues over the last 24 months.
Great suggestion but who would want to fund that? Certainly not any entity who has been pushing vaccination on the entire population.
It is a travesty that Pfizer/Moderna were allowed to unblind the vaccine trials after collecting only 6 weeks of safety data. What might we have learned had they kept a control arm?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:16 am to GumboPot
I enjoy telling the people I know, that got the vaccine, to look out for the bad ole boogie clot man. They never laugh with me.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:17 am to tide06
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Annual deaths are way, way up. AFTER a pandemic ended.
The pandemic isn't over by any measure.
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This could be handled in 3-6 months conclusively by conducting a clinical trial comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated people for myocarditis, signs of blood clots and evaluating major health issues over the last 24 months.
There has been such a study that compared vaccination to infection, but given the dwindling population of the unvaccinated, I'm skeptical you'll get a vaccinated vs unvaccinated study. Regardless, the myocarditis risk after infection is 7x higher than the myocarditis risk in the vaccinated, according to this meta-analysis.
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