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re: Ted Lieu peddles anti-Semitic trope that Jewish ambassador has dual loyalties

Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:01 pm to
Well I reckon Caplewood has gone bye-bye.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:03 pm to
Sorry to hear that cough cough.
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:21 pm to
Perhaps you should go after all the anti-Islam foul bigotry spewed daily on this board as well
Posted by uway
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:29 pm to
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And because we know what happened to them 1939-1945, when they were besieged. We understand the Ancient Hatreds.


I don’t care. How many Americans died defeating Naziism? I think the American people have done plenty for Jews. At least enough to be able to openly and unapologetically question whether we are being manipulated into serving Israeli interests ahead of ours.

I honestly asked if you we’re Jewish, based on the way you seem to take this topic personally.
I would expect Jewish people to be passionate about Jewish interests, which is why I am not going to fly into hysterics if a few people start wondering where some Congressional loyalties lay.

I assume you don’t get upset when people question Ilhan Omar’s loyalty?

Also, since you reference the Holocaust, how do you feel about reparations for the descendants of American slaves?
Since we are bringing up old shite.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:34 pm to
I don’t have an affinity for Islam that I have for Judaism ( or Christianity or Buddhism) so I feel no need or desire to defend it. The fact that a huge percentage of Muslims believe that US Constitutionalism is incompatible with Islam makes that easy. I don’t defend Islam , Scientology, Communism or any other batshit crazy ideology. I only defend their right to free speech and other Constitutionally guaranteed rights.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:47 pm to
Your first paragraph is a straw man. Nobody says America hasn’t done enough for Jews and nobody has disparaged our grandfathers and great uncles who fought the
‘Axis. And nobody says you can’t talk about Israel. All straw there, man.

I take stupidity and propaganda “ personally “. If you want me to be Jewish to further your narrative, I could try. What do I have to do? And can I now ask you if you are a Nazi ? See how stupid that is. And for the record I participate in FAR fewer Israel threads than you do. I wade in twice a year or so when the propaganda circle jerk ( errybody got dem dual citizenship) hits Peak Moronic.

Sadly, you guys have convinced yourself that the enormous affinity the vast majority of Americans have for Israel is the
Minority position. In fact, YOU are the outlier here. Americans respect Israel and hope Israel has lasting peace and prosperity.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:53 pm to
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Sadly, you guys have convinced yourself that the enormous affinity the vast majority of Americans have for Israel is the
Minority position. In fact, YOU are the outlier here. Americans respect Israel and hope Israel has lasting peace and prosperity.


Israelis don’t respect us.

That was the thing that surprised me.

They resent being our ward, and they look down us, because we’re so easy to manipulate.

It makes sense though.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 3:55 pm
Posted by uway
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:58 pm to
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Your first paragraph is a straw man. Nobody says America hasn’t done enough for Jews and nobody has disparaged our grandfathers and great uncles who fought the

Then why are you talking about 1939 as if it has anything to do with the US-Israeli relationship today? You said it’s a reason for me to care about Israel’s existence, didn’t you?

quote:

If you want me to be Jewish to further your narrative, I could try.

It was just a question.

quote:

What do I have to do?

Lol that’s bait

quote:

Sadly, you guys have convinced yourself that the enormous affinity the vast majority of Americans have for Israel is the Minority position.

It’s the Boomer position and its days are numbered.

You keep talking about your “affinity” for Israel as if anyone should care. As if it should shape American policy. That’s fine, you can have affinity for whatever you want. Don’t call me anti-Semitic for not sharing your affinity.

quote:

Americans respect Israel and hope Israel has lasting peace and prosperity.

Eh.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:18 pm to
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It’s a very insidious accusation that was a fundamental talking point of both nazis and pogrom organizers in Slavic regions.

It gets repeated on this board as well. You HAVE to be more careful.


The old Nazi comparison. The Israel zealots are as bad as progressives and their fake cries of racism.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:28 pm to
A good way to spot a hypocrite is to ask him to pick which statement is true:

A) “dual loyalties” indicates antisemitism
B) “go back to....” indicates racism
C) both A & B
D) none of the above

Picking anything other than C or D indicates hypocrisy.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:31 pm to
E. I will aspire to think whatever I believe to be true and right, regardless of what “ism” someone attaches to a particular belief.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:42 pm to
Lol. Look , you can hate Israel or hate Jews or any other damn thing all you want. I don’t really care. Knock yourself out. But next time if you ask me a series of bullet point questions like fricking Internet Columbo, at least make a worthy response instead of some half- baked blather about boomers.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:54 pm to
Found one.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:56 pm to
XIVNPC White Knight mode engaged.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:58 pm to
Sounds like you don’t know what a white Knight is.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:03 pm to
You have a tendency to ignore the point.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:11 pm to
There was no point. You could have just said Israel Bad in your first post and called it a day. Why don’t we both just agree to let it be considering this whole thread is a pile of steaming shite.

Have a great weekend, bro.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:55 pm to
Foreign-born congressman accuses someone of having dual allegiances.

Film at 11.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:57 pm to
Jews are off limits. Sooner people just accept it the better. Dont ever criticize a jew again because the holocaust happened.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:59 pm to
Melt.
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