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re: Teacher Pay Raises
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:27 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:27 am to SlidellCajun
Question
What percentage of a teacher’s salary does the state pay?
I realize it would differ depending on district, but on average what percentage does the state pay?
What percentage of a teacher’s salary does the state pay?
I realize it would differ depending on district, but on average what percentage does the state pay?
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:27 am to SlidellCajun
The issue with current teacher pay is that they’re mostly paid roughly the same despite vast differences in supply/demand for teachers in different grades and subjects as well as the qualifications for each. There is always a glut of k-4 teachers and history teachers while there’s a massive shortage of hs algebra, chemistry, and physics teachers. There wouldn’t be a shortage if they could pay those teachers more, thus incentivizing more kids to go to college to become a teacher in one of those in-demand fields.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:30 am to kingbob
All this talk about standardized tests to assess student progress [in this case for teacher merit pay raises]...you do realize that this is similar to common core trashed by so many of you same folks?
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:30 am to kingbob
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:31 am to doubleb
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I realize it would differ depending on district, but on average what percentage does the state pay?
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Not sure about that.
Why do you ask?
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 9:33 am
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:35 am to SlidellCajun
Has Rispone put that or anything in writing? You go to his website and there isn't a single thought about what he wants to do. Falling for this guy further escalates the stupidity of our electorate.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:35 am to SlidellCajun
Based on the current system you can't give teachers raises based on merit.
Why?
Because merit raises would follow good classes as they go through public schools.
In other words, it wouldn't be merit raises. It would be "we had a good class" raises.
As long as all teacher sget paid the same, regardless of performance, and as long as that performance is based on test scores, there will never be a good way to reward good teachers.
Why?
Because merit raises would follow good classes as they go through public schools.
In other words, it wouldn't be merit raises. It would be "we had a good class" raises.
As long as all teacher sget paid the same, regardless of performance, and as long as that performance is based on test scores, there will never be a good way to reward good teachers.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:35 am to cahoots
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But even within the same local school district, some schools are going to be much more challenging. Sometimes you only have to go a few miles down the road to find a school full of kids with shitty home life. Kids learn a LOT at home. So by looking at test scores, regardless of how you do it, you are going to reward teachers for increases in knowledge bestowed by parents.
And that’s a good thing.
But if you are in charge of a class with subpar parents, then their incoming scores are sub par and just backfilling knowledge is rewarded.
Again, those parental gifted students come in with higher base scores and must be advanced. This is actually harder work! These teachers face a higher challenge.
The easiest teaching increases is backfilling holes not raising hills!
Lower achievement students are the gold mine of merit pay.
High achievers are more challenging and hard work.
Notice how teachers in private and religious schools accept lower pay in the schools where parents are more involved in teaching the kids.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:36 am to TheHumanTornado
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Has Rispone put that or anything in writing? You go to his website and there isn't a single thought about what he wants to do. Falling for this guy further escalates the stupidity of our electorate.
I've seen a few of his ads, and the only thing he's running on is that he's not JBE.
And that might be enough.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:36 am to SlidellCajun
quote:
Not sure about that.
Why do you ask?
Trying to get a handle on the situation.
I’m for merit raises, but I believe it would be easier for the district to provide one instead of the state.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:37 am to cahoots
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Well, some people seem to think that you can pay someone $40k a year to teach high school physics and calculus and expect good results. The problem is obvious. If someone is well educated in those subjects, they aren't teaching high schools kids for $40K!
Agreed
The problem is, the left and the teacher's unions think the "solution" to this problem is to pay EVERY teacher what it takes to hire a solid Physics teacher.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:39 am to cahoots
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Well, some people seem to think that you can pay someone $40k a year to teach high school physics and calculus and expect good results. The problem is obvious. If someone is well educated in those subjects, they aren't teaching high schools kids for $40K!
I agree and those teachers deserve a higher pay level than say a PE teacher.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:40 am to cahoots
This. If I could make closer to $60k as a high school teacher in Louisiana, I’d probably do that. I actually really like teaching, but there’s just not enough money in it.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:41 am to cahoots
quote:
Well, some people seem to think that you can pay someone $40k a year to teach high school physics and calculus and expect good results. The problem is obvious. If someone is well educated in those subjects, they aren't teaching high schools kids for $40K!
I've known two guys who got degrees in engineering and worked in the private sector for 10-15 years before deciding they'd like to teach HS science. They were prepared for the cut in pay. But then they found out they would have to go back to college for a year and take education courses to certify. They weren't interested in that BS.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:43 am to NikolaiJakov
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I've seen a few of his ads, and the only thing he's running on is that he's not JBE.
And that might be enough.
Well JBE keeps saying that he’s not Jindal.
It worked once.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:45 am to NikolaiJakov
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I've seen a few of his ads, and the only thing he's running on is that he's not JBE.
And that might be enough.
It is for me.
I will vote for the terrible candidate who may be a terrible governor over the guy I already know is a terrible governor every day of the week.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:45 am to SlidellCajun
Teacher observations solve this. If the Principal or AP see the teacher using the strategies of best practices for teaching, they deserve the raise. If the teacher is handing a ton of worksheets and being lazy, no raise.
Surprise observations take care of this situation, over test scores.
Surprise observations take care of this situation, over test scores.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:46 am to Gaspergou202
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:49 am to ShortyRob
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:50 am to ShortyRob
For those that oppose a merit based system- I ask- what is the incentive to improve your teaching approach if you know that you’ll get the same pay irrespective of results?
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