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re: Tariffs not bringing in what trump said they would….
Posted on 4/30/25 at 6:25 pm to beaux duke
Posted on 4/30/25 at 6:25 pm to beaux duke
quote:You're missing the critique. You're acting like people are being forced to vote and therefore each successive winner is going to necessarily get more votes, which is of course not the case
except it is
quote:
think before you post
You might want to take some of your own advice
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 6:26 pm to EphesianArmor
quote:
NEW US FACTORIES & RE-TOOLING AIN'T HAPPENING
You mean aside from the companies who have announced precisely what you are saying isn't going to happen?Posted on 4/30/25 at 6:29 pm to beaux duke
quote:Absolutely not and that's a stupid suggestion. Think before you post
i guess we'll have to accept what the united states posts as the real numbers
quote:
kooks with no evidence
You mean other than all the evidence of voter fraud which is STILL being discovered?
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:21 pm to Warboo
quote:
Would you rather have an income tax or consumption tax?
Consumption is preferable. However, it seems we are getting both. Jokes on you.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:46 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:
Would you rather have an income tax or consumption tax? Consumption is preferable. However, it seems we are getting both. Jokes on you.
It would be funny if one was done away with. The joke would be funny for all. You may not laugh but the rest of us would.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:03 pm to Warboo
I like that post.
jab-feint-jab-UPPERCUT
jab-feint-jab-UPPERCUT
Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:51 am to somethingdifferent
(NEW US FACTORIES & RE-TOOLING AIN'T HAPPENING)
Yea, because mere promises from a couple of auto manufactures and few others are going to be game-changers for trade and US manufacturing? Talk about "Hopium".
Truth is, it would take decades for US Manufacturing and re-tooling to help establish semi-independence again. Who would even commit to financing that many manufacturing plants? (and wouldn't these plant be "manned" mostly by robotics?)
There is just NO way to stuff this genie back in the bottle. China has been allowed by treasonous mercenary US politicians since the 1990s to steal, acquire, and co-opt American manufacturing, foods, technology, major appliance brands, hotels, media, entertainment, land -- you name it.
quote:
You mean aside from the companies who have announced precisely what you are saying isn't going to happen?
Yea, because mere promises from a couple of auto manufactures and few others are going to be game-changers for trade and US manufacturing? Talk about "Hopium".
Truth is, it would take decades for US Manufacturing and re-tooling to help establish semi-independence again. Who would even commit to financing that many manufacturing plants? (and wouldn't these plant be "manned" mostly by robotics?)
There is just NO way to stuff this genie back in the bottle. China has been allowed by treasonous mercenary US politicians since the 1990s to steal, acquire, and co-opt American manufacturing, foods, technology, major appliance brands, hotels, media, entertainment, land -- you name it.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:50 pm to EphesianArmor
quote:At first I was told they weren't working. Now you're admitting they are working. Deals are being negotiated. Now the EU appears to be entering the chat
because mere promises from a couple of auto manufactures and few others
quote:Given the evidence so far, it's more than hopium
Talk about "Hopium"
quote:First, you don't know that. Second, OUR CURRENT SITUATION IS UNSUSTAINABLE. The US isn't solvent
it would take decades for US Manufacturing and re-tooling to help establish semi-independence again
quote:Other than the ones you've admitted are lining up?
Who would even commit to financing that many manufacturing plants?
One of the problems with the criticisms is that they are operating from a false zero sum game: either cheap foreign goods or expensive domestic goods. There are many variations in between and that's what the negotiations are for
It's also funny that critics are arguing against things like pharma and tech. We SUPER need at least some domestic presence in those sectors
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:10 pm to EphesianArmor
quote:
Talk about "Hopium".
Talk about "Doomium"
Where the frick did the trend start that being a gloomy a-hole somehow makes you "smarter"?
You will disappear if proven wrong or gloat if proven "right", neither of which prove anything because you are merely guessing with a negative spin because that fits your miserable existence.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 7:53 pm to Goforit
quote:It wasn't that long ago that we were lamenting that 47% of people don't pay anything in income taxes and therefore they could vote themselves free shite from the taxes paid by the productive. How times have changed.
and people making under $200,000 don't have to pay income tax
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:06 pm to Warboo
quote:
1 b per day
Actually pretty impressive.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:07 pm to Warboo
Who’s winning the tariff war now?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:09 pm to Warboo
That poster still thinks Orange locked down Alabama and closed his business
Very dumb person
Very dumb person
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:38 pm to IronEagle1222
Last 2 months I got new tires on both trucks (needed them anyway) and got all my parts from Canada I needed for my arctic cat
Ballin
Ballin
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:52 pm to Goforit
quote:
people making under $200,000 don't have to pay income tax.
Are you wearing a "Tax the Rich" dress as you type this, AOC?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:03 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:Not really. Have a client that produces a good, with international market, took a hard look at the effect of tariffs on their business. Had plans to move production to the US. Now, because of tariffs, They are *not* moving production to the US. Why?
Given the evidence so far, it's more than hopium
Because of other country's recriprocal tariffs make exporting from the US almost impossible. US manufacturing costs + tariffs > Asian manufacturing costs + tariffs. And they'll only pay that tariff in the US market. Everywhere else (for the most part) is tariff free--because they aren't exporting from teh US.
They were barely competitive with US COGS, but with tariffs on top, no one in the world can afford their product. They only way they compete is to keep production out of the US, and pass along the tariff to US (and only US) customers.
People are too hung on up thinking the US is the only market in the world, and it's changing fast.
quote:We have (for the moment) the strongest currency on the planet. By far. Our fiscal problem is our sovereign debt. But that has nothing to do with trade deficit. Contrary to what some believe, we don't have to pay that back.
OUR CURRENT SITUATION IS UNSUSTAINABLE. The US isn't solvent
Cutting demand for US dollars will only make our debt situation worse, not better. Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:05 pm to Jake88
quote:Bernie's gotta be mad Trump is stealing his schtick.
It wasn't that long ago that we were lamenting that 47% of people don't pay anything in income taxes and therefore they could vote themselves free shite from the taxes paid by the productive. How times have changed.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:36 am to RohanGonzales
quote:
Talk about "Hopium".
Ok. THAT was funny.
THAT was dumb.
Back to funny again.
Talk about "Hopium".
quote:
Talk about "Doomium"
Ok. THAT was funny.
quote:
Where the frick did the trend start that being a gloomy a-hole somehow makes you "smarter"?
THAT was dumb.
quote:
You will disappear if proven wrong or gloat if proven "right", neither of which prove anything because you are merely guessing with a negative spin because that fits your miserable existence.
Back to funny again.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:41 am to Warboo
If Trump said he saved 7 people from drowning and it turned out to be just 5, the left would go crazy about that lying Trump. How dare he saved just 5 people.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:52 am to somethingdifferent
My quote:
because mere promises [were made] from a couple of auto manufactures and few others
I've done nothing of the sort. What are you -- CNN?
Upthread YOU are the one who assured ME new US FACTORIES are RE-TOOLING; I said it AIN'T HAPPENING.
You:
You again:
So there's "chatting" and "deals" being clucked about. Big whoop. It's CHYNA who's by far our biggest supplier of manufactured goods.
Hmmm...What's missing from any of that? Oh yeah -- about 20 years (or generation's worth) of replacing and re-establishing manufacturing plants, facilities and tool & die equipment IN the USA. By that time many of us will be 6' under or hopefully Raptured
And IF any of what Chyna manufactures in their seat-shops is brought back to the USA, the jobs will be low-paying, "supervised" or run by ROBOTS.
because mere promises [were made] from a couple of auto manufactures and few others
quote:
Now you're admitting they are working. Deals are being negotiated. Now the EU appears to be entering the chat
I've done nothing of the sort. What are you -- CNN?
Upthread YOU are the one who assured ME new US FACTORIES are RE-TOOLING; I said it AIN'T HAPPENING.
You:
quote:
"You mean aside from the companies who have announced precisely what you are saying isn't going to happen?"
You again:
quote:
"Deals are being negotiated. Now the EU appears to be entering the chat"
So there's "chatting" and "deals" being clucked about. Big whoop. It's CHYNA who's by far our biggest supplier of manufactured goods.
Hmmm...What's missing from any of that? Oh yeah -- about 20 years (or generation's worth) of replacing and re-establishing manufacturing plants, facilities and tool & die equipment IN the USA. By that time many of us will be 6' under or hopefully Raptured
And IF any of what Chyna manufactures in their seat-shops is brought back to the USA, the jobs will be low-paying, "supervised" or run by ROBOTS.
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