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re: Tariffs not bringing in what trump said they would….

Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:48 am to
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:48 am to
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Then they can't achieve their stated objectives


There are different people stating different objectives
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12268 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:49 am to
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Then they can't achieve their stated objectives


Stated objectives depends on who you ask, or what day you ask.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4856 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:54 am to
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and he got more votes than any pres ever

pretty much every president has accomplished this as the country continuously expands its population. this is another meaningless statistic that trump loves to crow about and gumps don't bother to look any further
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:30 am to
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We don't have that labor. Its a good thing
This is very debatable
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:59 am to
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you can introduce automation to the argument, but there goes 'bringing those job's back to America
doomcasters: we don't have manual labor
also doomcasters: you can introduce automation to the argument, but there goes 'bringing those job's back to America'
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:09 am to
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Reality


Prove that "None of the OSEAN nations are capable of what those two nations accomplished in the 20th century"

good luck with that
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:11 am to
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It is literally a tax, and their being temporary doesn’t change that at all
You are wrong on both accounts. You're saying that 2 nations negotiating a fair trade deal is worse than our current situation? Any rational person would know that's absurd and it exemplifies how you people can't be reasoned with
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:15 am to
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I said won’t
Which is an even dumber position to take because you can't possibly prove such a thing. It's just your doomcasting

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We are never, ever, going back to producing cheap trinkets and mass produced cheap clothing, etc
We've now officially become Strawmanville. You people move all over the place. It's not ONLY about the products, in and of themselves.

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We will always buy more than we sell
Which does not obviate the necessity of negotiating better deals because our current situation is unsustainable

Again, why didn't the Biden admin remove the tariffs 1.0?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:17 am to
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Then they can't achieve their stated objectives

They're already proving you wrong. Several nations are already negotiating, deals are being made, a list of businesses have announced domestic operations. You are objectively wrong on this point
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1938 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:19 am to
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this is another meaningless statistic
Because people are being forced to go out and vote. Even if your stupid quip is right, which it isn't, a vast number of people in this country are in favor of this approach, contrary to what power said
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:21 am to
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4856 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:39 am to
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Even if your stupid quip is right, which it isn't

except it is
let's start with clinton 44.9 million in 92, 47.4 in 96
dubya posted 50.4 million in 2000, 62 million in 2004
obama got 69 million in 2008, fell off a bit in 2012 with 65.9 million
trump got less than obama at 62.9 million, and in fact less than killary, how put up 65.8 million
biden posted 81.2 million in 2020
trump got far less in 2024 at 77.3 million
https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-States-Presidential-Election-Results-1788863
all of this information is readily available online. think before you post


Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:42 am to
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except it is
let's start with clinton 44.9 million in 92, 47.4 in 96
dubya posted 50.4 million in 2000, 62 million in 2004
obama got 69 million in 2008, fell off a bit in 2012 with 65.9 million
trump got less than obama at 62.9 million, and in fact less than killary, how put up 65.8 million
biden posted 81.2 million in 2020
trump got far less in 2024 at 77.3 million
LINK
all of this information is readily available online. think before you post



THis would be pretty cool if those numbers were real.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:56 am to
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Its like people forget the purpose.

WE WANT THE STUFF MADE HERE. MAKE IT HERE AND THERE IS 0% TARIFF.


Nice fairy tale. IThe time to have thought about this was 20-30 YEARS ago. We were sold out by our own.

Memo: NEW US FACTORIES & RE-TOOLING AIN'T HAPPENING.

Some of you dreamers need a reality check.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4856 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:58 am to
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THis would be pretty cool if those numbers were real.

feel free to post your "real" numbers
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:28 pm to
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THis would be pretty cool if those numbers were real.

feel free to post your "real" numbers


No one knows the real numbers.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:30 pm to
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now we are at a 1b trade surplus.


Rogerthepanican says Trump has NO plan.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4856 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:40 pm to
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No one knows the real numbers.

huh. then i guess we'll have to accept what the united states posts as the real numbers and kooks with no evidence can rant about "fake news!" all they want
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:18 pm to
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huh. then i guess we'll have to accept what the united states posts as the real numbers and kooks with no evidence can rant about "fake news!" all they want


Huh. Or we can have the DOJ rip into the sham of election integrity and find out the real numbers. While they are at it they can make future elections legit. Oh by the way, that is in progress as we speak. Then you can rant about losing elections going forward.
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