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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:58 pm to
Maybe this is all a set up so they (US military) can go back in years from now. Rinse and repeat
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14128 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:00 pm to
Sorry if it's already been asked, but why would Ron DeSantis do this?
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3665 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:00 pm to
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To justify returning in about 5 years



Hopefully we as a nation won't be as gung ho to want to do it. 9/11 created the perfect storm. But after two decades of losing brothers in a unwinnable battle, I don't see us being willing to go back. It would be all clandestine operations, because we aren't going for it so shortly after this.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Maybe this is all a set up so they (US military) can go back in years from now. Rinse and repeat


The Biden administration has offered the Taliban billions of dollars in future monetary aid as part of a negotiation package if it does not attack our Embassy per the New York Times NY Times

The Taliban I'm sure will show professional courtesy to the United States, as they both had remained allies against the Soviet Union, right? LOL
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139484 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:02 pm to
Now that the multi trillion dollar infrastructure bill is done, we can create a multi trillion dollar defense bill for the next war over there.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Hopefully we as a nation won't be as gung ho to want to do it. 9/11 created the perfect storm. But after two decades of losing brothers in a unwinnable battle, I don't see us being willing to go back. It would be all clandestine operations, because we aren't going for it so shortly after this.



I don't share your optimism given some of the rhetoric towards Iran in recent years.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177371 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Update 5: It appears the Biden Administration's attempt to negotiate with the Taliban over our keeping our Embassy staff safe has fallen on deaf ears. The US is now considering the evacuation of the Kabul Embassy now. ZeroHedge Only problem with the Biden evacuation plan is that the evacuation wouldn't be started until August 31st.

What a surprise. Democrats are fricking idiots when it comes to our embassies. Reads like it’s right out of Carter and Iran.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:17 pm to
"Khalilzad is hoping to convince Taliban leaders that the [US] embassy must remain open, and secure, if the group hopes to receive American financial aid and other assistance as part of a future Afghan government"

Thank you Democrats for putting this brain trust in power because its clear they don't know what the frick they are doing.
Posted by captron
Occupied Sillycon Valley
Member since Jul 2018
587 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:18 pm to
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The Biden administration has offered the Taliban billions of dollars in future monetary aid as part of a negotiation package if it does not attack our Embassy per the New York Times NY Times


With all the Humvees, MRAPS and drones we left them maybe we can just call it even.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:33 pm to
We still can’t find billions and that’s billions of dollars worth of stuff from Iraqi war. They burned up brand new 80,000 dollar work trucks in droves if they ran out of gas etc. after the war .

This is absolutely the only reason that Obama didn’t pull out although he promised too, and absolutely the reason that trump stopped his plan to pull out and broke his campaign promise.

This was always going to be how this ended, same as it did for Russians, English. ottomans, Romans, Huns whatever. Thus the famous phrase “ you can’t ever buy the loyalty of any Afghan you can only rent it. “

I am glad Biden finally pulled the plug in this shite storm. W had a chance at beginning to pull this off but his advisors were neocon idiots. Even the Iranians were trying to help.

This is why you have to learn from history my friends.

If I was in charge I would use tactical nuke to destroy the airport, embargo the limited access and let them bleed the Chinese dry. They would frick them too.

What’s is going to happen.

Taliban will completely control country before Labor Day. They will pretend to be kinder gentler Taliban for a few years to keep aid coming, and buddy up to China but will revert back to the old Taliban as soon as possible.

They will stir up trouble in old Russian provinces and support terrorist there and likely in China as well which will sour those relationships. Of course, as Pakistan’s proxy they will of course attack India every way possible, and Iran as well.

Within 5 years they will be at War with Iran, or really Pakistan at war with Iran through them. Maybe India enters this as well.

Understand this and believe it or not, it’s only a matter of time before India and Pakistan use their nukes against each other or their proxy’s.
We (our intelligence agencies) have known this for decades, and nothing can stop this, (unless God or some Advanced intelligence intervenes), we just don’t want it to be end of all life event. We don’t really kill a shite if they all kill each other off, less if them the better the rest of world really is overall.

Afghan has always been a quicksand trap shithole for those that don’t understand history.
Let them rot
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:37 pm to
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absolutely the reason that trump stopped his plan to pull out and broke his campaign promise.



Except he didn't. The withdrawal agreement was negotiated and signed by his administration in February of 2020.

And no, I'm not blaming Trump. It's actually one of the few things he did that I agreed with.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26668 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Can't have shampoo in our luggage but our shite-arse government can hand drones over to terrorists.



Post of the fricking day.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:41 pm to
America has been played like a damn fiddle by the Middle East and Terrorists for so damn long now


Just fricking leave that shithole to rot and never look back.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:43 pm to
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Taliban have now seized hundreds of US humvees & Maxxpro MRAPS at Kunduz Airport


I'm fine with this.

Rather they be left over there than given to county sheriff's all over the country.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26445 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:48 pm to
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Trump wanted to do the same thing but failed, gtfo with that.



NO he didnt. He's bitched about us starting wars and leaving all of our equipment there for like 40 years.


Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:54 pm to
Overall...IDGAF

What a boondoggle. Spending trillions on killing those cavemen, empowering horrible new leaders, and disrupting a region.

Trillions that could have been spent on our own people And infrastructure


Horrible job exiting the country, but still DGAF
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:55 pm to


China just announced that it will recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan once Kabul falls.

This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:00 pm to
After the election, I am fine with that too. But let’s skip the blame game. It was an ok intial plan. But they will always been ruled by the gun or sword as that’s all they respect.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:01 pm to
Of course, China will. They will take anything free then use it to attack you. Just ask the Russians
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:02 pm to
They are both pos anyway.
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