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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:58 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:58 pm to fr33manator
Maybe this is all a set up so they (US military) can go back in years from now. Rinse and repeat
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:00 pm to MrLSU
Sorry if it's already been asked, but why would Ron DeSantis do this?
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:00 pm to SPEEDY
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To justify returning in about 5 years
Hopefully we as a nation won't be as gung ho to want to do it. 9/11 created the perfect storm. But after two decades of losing brothers in a unwinnable battle, I don't see us being willing to go back. It would be all clandestine operations, because we aren't going for it so shortly after this.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:01 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Maybe this is all a set up so they (US military) can go back in years from now. Rinse and repeat
The Biden administration has offered the Taliban billions of dollars in future monetary aid as part of a negotiation package if it does not attack our Embassy per the New York Times NY Times
The Taliban I'm sure will show professional courtesy to the United States, as they both had remained allies against the Soviet Union, right? LOL
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:02 pm to Montezuma
Now that the multi trillion dollar infrastructure bill is done, we can create a multi trillion dollar defense bill for the next war over there.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:03 pm to Montezuma
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Hopefully we as a nation won't be as gung ho to want to do it. 9/11 created the perfect storm. But after two decades of losing brothers in a unwinnable battle, I don't see us being willing to go back. It would be all clandestine operations, because we aren't going for it so shortly after this.
I don't share your optimism given some of the rhetoric towards Iran in recent years.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:05 pm to MrLSU
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Update 5: It appears the Biden Administration's attempt to negotiate with the Taliban over our keeping our Embassy staff safe has fallen on deaf ears. The US is now considering the evacuation of the Kabul Embassy now. ZeroHedge Only problem with the Biden evacuation plan is that the evacuation wouldn't be started until August 31st.
What a surprise. Democrats are fricking idiots when it comes to our embassies. Reads like it’s right out of Carter and Iran.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:17 pm to The Boat
"Khalilzad is hoping to convince Taliban leaders that the [US] embassy must remain open, and secure, if the group hopes to receive American financial aid and other assistance as part of a future Afghan government"
Thank you Democrats for putting this brain trust in power because its clear they don't know what the frick they are doing.
Thank you Democrats for putting this brain trust in power because its clear they don't know what the frick they are doing.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:18 pm to MrLSU
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The Biden administration has offered the Taliban billions of dollars in future monetary aid as part of a negotiation package if it does not attack our Embassy per the New York Times NY Times
With all the Humvees, MRAPS and drones we left them maybe we can just call it even.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:33 pm to The Boat
We still can’t find billions and that’s billions of dollars worth of stuff from Iraqi war. They burned up brand new 80,000 dollar work trucks in droves if they ran out of gas etc. after the war .
This is absolutely the only reason that Obama didn’t pull out although he promised too, and absolutely the reason that trump stopped his plan to pull out and broke his campaign promise.
This was always going to be how this ended, same as it did for Russians, English. ottomans, Romans, Huns whatever. Thus the famous phrase “ you can’t ever buy the loyalty of any Afghan you can only rent it. “
I am glad Biden finally pulled the plug in this shite storm. W had a chance at beginning to pull this off but his advisors were neocon idiots. Even the Iranians were trying to help.
This is why you have to learn from history my friends.
If I was in charge I would use tactical nuke to destroy the airport, embargo the limited access and let them bleed the Chinese dry. They would frick them too.
What’s is going to happen.
Taliban will completely control country before Labor Day. They will pretend to be kinder gentler Taliban for a few years to keep aid coming, and buddy up to China but will revert back to the old Taliban as soon as possible.
They will stir up trouble in old Russian provinces and support terrorist there and likely in China as well which will sour those relationships. Of course, as Pakistan’s proxy they will of course attack India every way possible, and Iran as well.
Within 5 years they will be at War with Iran, or really Pakistan at war with Iran through them. Maybe India enters this as well.
Understand this and believe it or not, it’s only a matter of time before India and Pakistan use their nukes against each other or their proxy’s.
We (our intelligence agencies) have known this for decades, and nothing can stop this, (unless God or some Advanced intelligence intervenes), we just don’t want it to be end of all life event. We don’t really kill a shite if they all kill each other off, less if them the better the rest of world really is overall.
Afghan has always been a quicksand trap shithole for those that don’t understand history.
Let them rot
This is absolutely the only reason that Obama didn’t pull out although he promised too, and absolutely the reason that trump stopped his plan to pull out and broke his campaign promise.
This was always going to be how this ended, same as it did for Russians, English. ottomans, Romans, Huns whatever. Thus the famous phrase “ you can’t ever buy the loyalty of any Afghan you can only rent it. “
I am glad Biden finally pulled the plug in this shite storm. W had a chance at beginning to pull this off but his advisors were neocon idiots. Even the Iranians were trying to help.
This is why you have to learn from history my friends.
If I was in charge I would use tactical nuke to destroy the airport, embargo the limited access and let them bleed the Chinese dry. They would frick them too.
What’s is going to happen.
Taliban will completely control country before Labor Day. They will pretend to be kinder gentler Taliban for a few years to keep aid coming, and buddy up to China but will revert back to the old Taliban as soon as possible.
They will stir up trouble in old Russian provinces and support terrorist there and likely in China as well which will sour those relationships. Of course, as Pakistan’s proxy they will of course attack India every way possible, and Iran as well.
Within 5 years they will be at War with Iran, or really Pakistan at war with Iran through them. Maybe India enters this as well.
Understand this and believe it or not, it’s only a matter of time before India and Pakistan use their nukes against each other or their proxy’s.
We (our intelligence agencies) have known this for decades, and nothing can stop this, (unless God or some Advanced intelligence intervenes), we just don’t want it to be end of all life event. We don’t really kill a shite if they all kill each other off, less if them the better the rest of world really is overall.
Afghan has always been a quicksand trap shithole for those that don’t understand history.
Let them rot
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:37 pm to TutHillTiger
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absolutely the reason that trump stopped his plan to pull out and broke his campaign promise.
Except he didn't. The withdrawal agreement was negotiated and signed by his administration in February of 2020.
And no, I'm not blaming Trump. It's actually one of the few things he did that I agreed with.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:37 pm to dbeck
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Can't have shampoo in our luggage but our shite-arse government can hand drones over to terrorists.
Post of the fricking day.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:41 pm to MrLSU
America has been played like a damn fiddle by the Middle East and Terrorists for so damn long now
Just fricking leave that shithole to rot and never look back.
Just fricking leave that shithole to rot and never look back.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:43 pm to 0x15E
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Taliban have now seized hundreds of US humvees & Maxxpro MRAPS at Kunduz Airport
I'm fine with this.
Rather they be left over there than given to county sheriff's all over the country.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:48 pm to dandyjohn
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Trump wanted to do the same thing but failed, gtfo with that.
NO he didnt. He's bitched about us starting wars and leaving all of our equipment there for like 40 years.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:54 pm to MrLSU
Overall...IDGAF
What a boondoggle. Spending trillions on killing those cavemen, empowering horrible new leaders, and disrupting a region.
Trillions that could have been spent on our own people And infrastructure
Horrible job exiting the country, but still DGAF
What a boondoggle. Spending trillions on killing those cavemen, empowering horrible new leaders, and disrupting a region.
Trillions that could have been spent on our own people And infrastructure
Horrible job exiting the country, but still DGAF
Posted on 8/12/21 at 1:55 pm to TaderSalad
China just announced that it will recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan once Kabul falls.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:00 pm to The Spleen
After the election, I am fine with that too. But let’s skip the blame game. It was an ok intial plan. But they will always been ruled by the gun or sword as that’s all they respect.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:01 pm to MrLSU
Of course, China will. They will take anything free then use it to attack you. Just ask the Russians
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:02 pm to BuckyCheese
They are both pos anyway.
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