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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3194 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Yet you completely gloss over the decisions he made (or in most cases didn't make) that directed resulted in what we are seeing today and just say 'oh, this was always going to happen this way because reasons and shite.'
No matter how much you want to believe, withdrawal was going to go real bad. Biden is dropping the ball completely. He should get all the blame.

This isn’t a defense of Biden, it’s a defense of getting the hell out of that country.

Because it sure looks like the media and the powers that be are pushing for the next pointless US military involvement and stirring up more pissed off American support of whatever war or conflict they choose next.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112940 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:44 pm to
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He should be fricking impeached.

I know exactly how it'll go down, and it'll be completely mindboggling that he won't be forced to resign or be forcibly removed.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Everyone agrees we should pull out which would undoubtedly cause chaos in the country.
We pull out.
Chaos ensues.
“The taliban are in control!?? No!! We need to go to war!”

Rip the bandaid off and get the hell out of there. Too many US soldiers and innocent civilians have died because of our presence. Enough is enough.


By leaving US civilians and the Afghans that helped us behind. fricking genius strategy. This isn’t to cut off your nose to spite your face. This is cutting off your own head to spite your face.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4866 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:45 pm to
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Biden sucks


I've NEVER hated a US president like I loathe Biden. NOTHING would bring me more pleasure than to watch him suffer and bleed publicly.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131432 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:45 pm to
This is what happens under one party rule. No party should ever control the presidency and both houses of Congress. No party, not even my own.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75777 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:45 pm to
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Because it sure looks like the media and the powers that be are pushing for the next pointless US military involvement

No, it looks like they are doing their fricking job for a change.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Addison, TX
Member since Sep 2017
1012 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:45 pm to
Imagine telling your boss that the project you're running would've been a disaster regardless of who was running it. It's such a weak statement used to deflect blame and it's obvious to everyone.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:45 pm to
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No matter how much you want to believe, withdrawal was going to go real bad.


We were able to do it without issue in Vietnam and Iraq.

But then again we also evacuated our civilians before we pulled all our troops out.

You again and again ignore this very important point.

Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30021 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:46 pm to
Unconfirmed but rumors are that AT LEAST 13 American civilians are dead and 15 are critically wounded.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75777 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:47 pm to
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We were able to do it without issue in Vietnam and Iraq.

But then again we also evacuated our civilians before we pulled all our troops out.

We also put the military in charge, not the State Department.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3194 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:47 pm to
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By leaving US civilians and the Afghans that helped us behind. fricking genius strategy. This isn’t to cut off your nose to spite your face. This is cutting off your own head to spite your face.
Yes, the plan is shite. Impeach him, whatever. Sounds good to me.

Lots of people pretending to care about US lives only now when they have been lost over the past 20 years as a direct result of being in that country.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71619 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Unconfirmed but rumors are that AT LEAST 13 American civilians are dead and 15 are critically wounded.



Where are these rumors emanating from?
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Yes, the plan is shite. Impeach him, whatever. Sounds good to me.
It should sound good, because that's what should happen
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Lots of people pretending to care about US lives only now when they have been lost over the past 20 years as a direct result of being in that country.

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How long did you wear the uniform. How many times did you deploy?

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:51 pm to
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I’m talking about over the past 20 years. This was going to be a shite show no matter who was running it. Trump knew it would look like a debacle and didn’t want to take the hit. Biden’s senile arse just said frick it, I’ll take the heat.


No one is denying that the Taliban would have taken back over if we withdrew and we’d not be seeing horrific atrocities. What could have been saved is not seeing American heads lopped off, Marines killed, terrorists taking tens of billions of dollars of equipment and weaponry from us, our allies questioning our allegiance to us, make China begin actively planning to invade Taiwan, and having every Afghan who helped us be brutally killed and their families sold off to sex slavery. That could have been avoided by anyone with a room temperature IQ or above.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87684 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:51 pm to
Honestly I don't even hate Biden the man that much

I hate what he represents, and I hate the millions of "Americans" who continue to walk knowingly and enthusiastically into an age of American decline
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11669 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:51 pm to
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This was going to be a shite show no matter who was running it. Trump knew it would look like a debacle and didn’t want to take the hit.


That is not a true statement. Are you saying Trump would have cancelled pulling out if re-elected? Or are you saying he stole the election from himself so he could avoid "taking the hit"?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87684 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:53 pm to
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Lots of people pretending to care about US lives only now when they have been lost over the past 20 years as a direct result of being in that country.



People caring about lives lost over 20 years IS WHY WE ARE LEAVING

Biden didn't altruistically settle on the idea of departure, public sentiment led to this

All we wanted from our leaders was to extricate us with at least a shred of American dignity and minimal damage to Americans and those who had our back
Posted by Tex Longhorn
Member since Aug 2021
402 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:54 pm to
https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1430911526135865345

Less than a week ago, Brave Sir Biden said:

“We’ve made clear to the Taliban that any attack — any attack on our forces or disruption of our operations at the airport will be met with a swift and forceful response."
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Lots of people pretending to care about US lives only now when they have been lost over the past 20 years as a direct result of being in that country.


I think I’ve been pretty vocal on here that we needed to leave the moment we killed Bin Laden.
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