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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:52 am to
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:52 am to
The airport is completely shut down so right now the only way to establish order would be to send in another 10-15k parachuters into Kabul ASAP
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:52 am to
10,000 are stranded and op update states that casualty info is trickling in.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:53 am to
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10,000 stranded??


Per the Daily Mail there are over 10,000 US Citizens stranded and there have been some casualties in this group. Don't know how many as the situation is very fluid right now
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6344 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:54 am to
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It wouldn't have mattered how long we had stayed over there if the current handling of the situation didn't change. We would still see mostly defenseless diplomats and pencil pushers left in harm's way because adequate defenses were not left in place until they could safely withdraw. That's what everyone in this thread has been saying.

This withdrawal was bungled, and this Administration was caught flat-footed underestimating the speed at which everything would go to shite. They were warned this was a distinct, if not likely, possibility. They were warned, and warned by multiple people who are trusted to know this.

The overall withdrawal isn't the issue here. The fine detail planning is what has dickered everything.


Not sure why anyone would downvote this.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109289 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:55 am to
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All of our top military brass should resign in disgrace


That could turn this into a net positive given all of the Libs in high military positions.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:57 am to
Does it qualify as a decisive victory if the enemy takes over the Presidential Palace in your Capitol city? Because that's what just happened.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1740 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:58 am to
Wouldnt something this dire normally cause news stations to break into live coverage?

I see it mentioned during normal news times but I think the live-breaking folks took the weekend off or something.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:00 am to
This should be breaking news across the board right now.

But people want to talk fricking COVID and ignore it.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8297 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:00 am to
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Per the Daily Mail there are over 10,000 US Citizens stranded and there have been some casualties in this group. Don't know how many as the situation is very fluid right now


CNN isn't saying this. Their breaking news report only stated that the American Flag is now down.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:00 am to
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Wouldnt something this dire normally cause news stations to break into live coverage?


You know why.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:01 am to
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But people want to talk fricking COVID and ignore it.


That's by design, baw.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:02 am to
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CNN isn't saying this. Their breaking news report only stated that the American Flag is now down.

Which means it is no longer an Embassy, and it is no longer operational. It also means any Afghans who worked for us and are at risk who aren't at the Embassy or already out are fricked.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:03 am to
When the flag comes down mr. president…. You have two choices. Start bombing or say screw it.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19301 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:03 am to
The Biden Administration has been knowing we need to GTFO for a week now. No excuse for 10k Americans being trapped. Taliban will not show any mercy. They are coming to kill. China gave them their blessing too.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:07 am to
Well, the acting American Ambassador is out and the French Ambassador is out. Good to see they're going for the top brass, first....
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:08 am to
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How about this thread with 174 upvotes and 2 downvotes from the poliboard when it was announced Trump was gonna withdrawal troops from Afghanistan?

Are you really stupid enough to believe that everyone is upset about withdrawing from Afghanistan?

Withdrawing isn't the issue. Should have been done earlier, if anything. The issue is HOW it's being done. Everyone, including the people advising Biden knew the ANA would fold like a cheap lawn chair and the Taliban would be on the move. But Joe said do it anyway. Pull out all of the security forces and let the desk jockeys try and survive on their own. Awesome plan...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:11 am to
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But Joe said do it anyway. Pull out all of the security forces and let the desk jockeys try and survive on their own. Awesome plan...


Don't forget the part where it was done in the middle of the night without even telling the Afghan military and government leaders.

That tends to shake your faith in your allies, and more importantly greatly increases the faith in your enemies that they are now free to do whatever they wish without reprisal.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12756 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:11 am to
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Update 9: The Biden Administration is offering the Taliban billions in future in future monetary aid in exchange for them not bombing our embassy. NY Times

**Update 9 tells the world that the United States has lost its super power status.

fricking Rome buying off the Goths.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:12 am to
Here's an "impossible" pic:
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 11:12 am to
Why isn’t this on the news????
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