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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:36 am to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:36 am to
Look I do not want any innocent people to die…. But how many Americans and such are at that Palace???? I agree with trying to get all Americans out of there… but the longer we wait to SEND a message the Taliban has us by the balls….. FACT
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36793 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:36 am to
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When does the bombing of the palace start…. Don’t bomb the airport or anything else… the palace is useless now anyway… the taliban will run like sheep.




You are living proof that warning labels work
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:36 am to
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You are living proof that warning labels work


Unfortunately.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87694 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:36 am to
The US is paralyzed and it is shaping up exactly how we all saw it Sunday

The Taliban will probably let US citizens get to the airport if they brave the effort, although I'm going to guess that gets dicier as the month goes on and especially for anyone outside of Kabul. And as a country we'll be left thanking them for doing it while our Afghan assets get the "oh no, not him, he stays" and we go "Thank you, still a good deal let's go" while the people we pledged to protect get dragged away.

And that scenario - where the US is basically eating shite on the world stage on the way out - is the absolute BEST CASE
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:37 am to
Wasn’t it already secure?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45175 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:37 am to
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Of course, he was operating under the misconception that the Kabul airport and the roads to it would be open and peaceful and our people could just drive or be driven to the airport.
So was England and their clueless leader Boris Johnson. He also gaffed on the timeframe, he said the exact same thing Biden did about the Taliban being weeks away from Kabul. US and UK must have shared the same bad intelligence.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:40 am to
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Look I do not want any innocent people to die…. But how many Americans and such are at that Palace????


Who cares how many are at the Palace? If we do that then the heads start to roll immediately. Within 30 minutes of that they’d behead an American on YouTube and Twitter
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42642 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:40 am to
The taliban already has us by the balls you idiot. Bombing the palace does literally nothing to show them we are serious unless it’s followed by a massive ground force to really go in and kick the shite out of them.

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Look I do not want any innocent people to die


So don’t give them a reason to do so aggressively.

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But how many Americans and such are at that Palace????


Are you fricking stupid? You think we are saying bombing the palace will lead to American deaths because our bombs will kill them?

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I agree with trying to get all Americans out of there… but the longer we wait to SEND a message the Taliban has us by the balls….. FACT


You are stupid aren’t you? No wonder you catch so much shite on every board you post on.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87694 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:40 am to
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Look I do not want any innocent people to die…. But how many Americans and such are at that Palace???? I agree with trying to get all Americans out of there… but the longer we wait to SEND a message the Taliban has us by the balls….. FACT



US strategy 100% depends on the "word" of the Taliban at this point.

Sure, we could go into Kabul and get lots of people out, kill lots of Taliban and get servicemen and US citizens killed in the process. A couple of weeks of urban warfare the likes of which we haven't seen in years.

But the administration is electing to cross their fingers and hope for the best.

And the sad part is, the administration is likely making the right choice. It's the right choice out of two ultra-shitty choices the administration left us with. Of course, all it takes is a few crazies or errant decisions and suddenly things are going to go very, very wrong.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18987 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:40 am to
its not that there are Americans at the palace - it is the ones they will hunt and execute in retaliation that is the issue.

you have got to be fricking with us at this point. you cannot be this clueless
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:41 am to
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So was England and their clueless leader Boris Johnson.


If Boris Johnson is clueless. What is Joe Biden?

At least Boris Johnson, reached out to the G7 (as soon as Kabul fell) to schedule an emergency meeting. We didn't hear from President Biden for what 3 days? THEN he didn't call ANY world leaders until 5 days later?


Also, unconfirmed? reports are saying the UK is trying to go door-to-door to get their citizens to the airport. While our military is mad at the UK troops because it may ruin our "plan" with Taliban.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71165 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:42 am to
Interesting day on the road

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63855 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:42 am to
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2 Para have been tasked to observe US forces in case they leave at short notice.
If true... God help us.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40409 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:44 am to
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And the sad part is, the administration is likely making the right choice. It's the right choice out of two ultra-shitty choices the administration left us with. Of course, all it takes is a few crazies or errant decisions and suddenly things are going to go very, very wrong.



"I guess all the dumb decisions you've made today have made this a good one." - Louis C.K.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46422 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:45 am to
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Yesterday, the White House said that Joe Biden has not taken any calls with world leaders in regards to Afghanistan.

Justin Trudeau stated that he spoke with Hillary Clinton yesterday about Afghanistan.

By now, you must all know Biden isn’t really running this country. He went rogue on this one and now all the real leaders are scrambling to clean this up. That’s why he’s not addressing the US citizens daily about where we stand. They don’t want him going off script and messing this up even more. Hell, they even had to tell him LEAVE NOW the last time they let him in front of a camera.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24449 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:46 am to
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Don’t bomb the airport or anything else

So don't bomb the airport where our military assets and US citizens are staging to try and get out of the country?

Thanks for clearing that up for us. Jeez
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42642 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:47 am to
The fact that Trudeau has spoken to Hillary scares the shite out of me. Are the Clinton’s the man behind the curtain?
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:48 am to
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Yesterday, the White House said that Joe Biden has not taken any calls with world leaders in regards to Afghanistan.

Justin Trudeau stated that he spoke with Hillary Clinton yesterday about Afghanistan.



NSA Sullivan basically said Secretary of State, State Dept, and other cabinet members handled the calls.

What's even worse... Where the hell is Kamala? Biden not reaching out is bad but skipping the VP level is even worse. We rely on Cabinet members to make calls to world leaders?

What does that say to our allies who we've fricked over.

"Sorry, we fricked you over. We won't even give you the satisfaction to talk to our leader(s). Deal with it."
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:48 am to
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but the longer we wait to SEND a message the Taliban has us by the balls….. FACT

You cannot "send a message" to someone when a huge, emergency, multi-national rescue mission 100% hinges on their cooperation. The only reason we haven't seen this turn into a slaughter is because the Taliban are allowing us to do what we are doing. The only reason we have the airport is because the Taliban are allowing us to keep it. The only reason people are still getting to the airport is because the Taliban are allowing them to get there.

We have zero leverage, and our only plan is "trust the terrorists". Well, we have a little leverage, and that is the fact that someone, somewhere had enough sense to freeze billions of dollars in Afghani assets. That is our only leverage.

The plan is "Trust the terrorists and hope they keep their word". If you go on the offensive now, you WILL see dead Americans. Period. This is a great example of "being stuck between a rock and a hard place".
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:49 am
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25830 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:49 am to
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Look I do not want any innocent people to die…. But how many Americans and such are at that Palace???? I agree with trying to get all Americans out of there… but the longer we wait to SEND a message the Taliban has us by the balls….. FACT


At this point in time, I think the only other person that could possibly run this country worse than Joe Biden, is fricking PPPPPJJJJJJJJJJJJ!.
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