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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:10 pm to
I've already text that meme out a few times.

I'm die hard Auburn but rolled laughing when I saw it.

My brother hates Alabama more than me and laughed his butt off when I sent it to him.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33951 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:18 pm to
Welp got my answer.


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THE TALIBAN HAVE SEIZED U.S. MILITARY BIOMETRICS DEVICES
Biometric collection and identification devices were seized last week during the Taliban’s offensive.



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THE TALIBAN HAVE seized U.S. military biometrics devices that could aid in the identification of Afghans who assisted coalition forces, current and former military officials have told The Intercept.

The devices, known as HIIDE, for Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment, were seized last week during the Taliban’s offensive, according to a Joint Special Operations Command official and three former U.S. military personnel, all of whom worried that sensitive data they contain could be used by the Taliban. HIIDE devices contain identifying biometric data such as iris scans and fingerprints, as well as biographical information, and are used to access large centralized databases. It’s unclear how much of the U.S. military’s biometric database on the Afghan population has been compromised.



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While billed by the U.S. military as a means of tracking terrorists and other insurgents, biometric data on Afghans who assisted the U.S. was also widely collected and used in identification cards, sources said.

“We processed thousands of locals a day, had to ID, sweep for suicide vests, weapons, intel gathering, etc.” a U.S. military contractor explained. “[HIIDE] was used as a biometric ID tool to help ID locals working for the coalition.”

A spokesperson for the Defense Intelligence Agency referred questions to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which did not respond to a request for comment.

An Army Special Operations veteran said it’s possible that the Taliban may need additional tools to process the HIIDE data but expressed concerns that Pakistan would assist with this. “The Taliban doesn’t have the gear to use the data but the ISI do,” the former Special Operations official said, referring to Pakistan’s spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence. The ISI has been known to work closely with the Taliban.

The U.S. military has long used HIIDE devices in the global war on terror and used biometrics to help identify Osama bin Laden during the 2011 raid on his Pakistani hideout. According to investigative reporter Annie Jacobsen, the Pentagon had a goal to gather biometric data on 80 percent of the Afghan population to locate terrorists and criminals.

“I don’t think anyone ever thought about data privacy or what to do in the event the [HIIDE] system fell into the wrong hands,” said Welton Chang, chief technology officer for Human Rights First, himself a former Army intelligence officer. “Moving forward, the U.S. military and diplomatic apparatus should think carefully about whether to deploy these systems again in situations as tenuous as Afghanistan.”

The Defense Department has also sought to share the biometrics data collected by HIIDE with other government agencies such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security. In 2011, the Government Accountability Office criticized the Pentagon for not doing enough to ensure these other surveillance agencies had easy access to the information, warning that the military “limits its federal partners’ ability to identify potential criminals or terrorists.”

But the U.S. didn’t only collect information about criminals and terrorists; the government appears to also have been collecting biometrics from Afghans assisting diplomatic efforts, in addition to those working with the military. For example, a recent job posting by a State Department contractor sought to recruit a biometric technician with experience using HIIDE and other similar equipment to help vet personnel and enroll local Afghans seeking employment at U.S. embassies and consulates.

The federal government has collected biometric data from Afghans despite knowing the risks entailed by maintaining large databases of personal information, especially given recent cyberattacks on government agencies and private companies. These efforts are continuing to expand.

For example, a February 2020 article published by the Army indicated that the service was modernizing its 20-year-old biometric processing technology and had saved more than 1 million entries in the Pentagon’s Automated Biometrics Identification System, or ABIS, which hosts HIIDE and data collected by other devices as well.

“This updated database will make it more efficient for warfighters to collect, identify and neutralize the enemy,” wrote Col. Senodja Sundiata-Walker, project manager for the Pentagon’s biometrics program.

President Joe Biden’s proposed budget for the Army in fiscal year 2022 seeks more than $11 million to purchase 95 new biometric collection devices expanding upon those used in Afghanistan and Iraq.



https://theintercept.com/2021/08/17/afghanistan-taliban-military-biometrics/
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:19 pm to
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August 31st. This is a major issue.


It is a major issue. I agree.

However, I think that the US military is now in a position to secure the airport and send flights out of Kabul regularly and without interference. I haven't enough information to speculate WRT what will happen to folks who may not be able to get inside the airport in Kabul.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:26 pm to
I'm just shaking my head at that. Good grief.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 10:27 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:28 pm to
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THE TALIBAN HAVE seized U.S. military biometrics devices that could aid in the identification of Afghans who assisted coalition forces, current and former military officials have told The Intercept.


They mean walked in the front door and got them.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33951 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:29 pm to
SIAP


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Adam Housley
@adamhousley

We once again have blood on our hands. I have friends on the ground in Afghanistan and the Taliban is now rounding up government employees and executing them. In Kandahar area for sure...more intel coming.
8:01 PM · Aug 17, 2021
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:31 pm to
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However, I think that the US military is now in a position to secure the airport and send flights out of Kabul regularly and without interference. I haven't enough information to speculate WRT what will happen to folks who may not be able to get inside the airport in Kabul.


They’ve had that though. The issue is getting them to the airport and the Biden administration refuses to address the people that currently aren’t at the airport, up to the point that they’re victim blaming. No, they need to address how they’ll get Americans to the airport, and they not only refuse to do it but also refuse to say that they’ll protect citizens outside of the airport and if they’ll have any ramifications for harming any American outside of the airport. Until the Biden Adminstration does that, I’m going to assume they’re sentencing at least 7,000 Americans to their deaths, not to mention our allies and the Afghanis who helped us.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69459 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:32 pm to
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We once again have blood on our hands. I have friends on the ground in Afghanistan and the Taliban is now rounding up government employees and executing them. In Kandahar area for sure...more intel coming.


If you follow the MSM, the taliban, and the Biden admin, things are quiet and peaceful. This is a different Taliban, they’re helping people get to the airports and have security checkpoints to keep order.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:33 pm to
Biden will circle back around to it next week. His briefing tomorrow is full of Covid topics so he doesn't have the time until next week.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:33 pm to
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However, I think that the US military is now in a position to secure the airport

Truth be told, the Taliban had as much (or more) to do with securing the airport than our troops have so far.

The surge of people who overran the airport happened before the Taliban got tight control over all roads and were able to reach the airport themselves. They are controlling who does or doesn't enter the airport grounds now. The Afghanis fear them, they don't fear our troops (as it should be). Let the Taliban leave the perimeter they have set up, and we are right back in the mess we were in.

It is a sickening feeling knowing that this whole multi-national effort 100% hinges on the whims of a terrorist organization that we are just supposed to trust. That's the plan. That's the only plan.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:33 pm to
We should have nuked the whole damn region in 2001

Freaking MIC
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11214 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:35 pm to
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If you follow the MSM, the taliban, and the Biden admin, things are quiet and peaceful. This is a different Taliban, they’re helping people get to the airports and have security checkpoints to keep order.

They’re pretty much just like us. They’re just trying to provide for their families, worship their God, and make sweet love to their favorite goat at night
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 10:38 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:45 pm to
On an entirely unrelated to anything in this thread note, I just found out that the lines on Solo/Dixie cups are measurements. I will be damned, again....

Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4734 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:47 pm to
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The same Bagram we just left? Our Government and military is led by fricking retards


You mean the same Bagram AB w/ 6 sq. miles enclosed within it’s blast walls and razor wire and a brand new tarmac? Sorry, US citizens and taxpayers we just abandoned it in the middle of the night. That’s in the missing pages of the “Art of War”
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39507 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:48 pm to
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Our general officer class as a whole is rotten to the core

How did this happen?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:49 pm to
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ou mean the same Bagram AB w/ 6 sq. miles enclosed within it’s blast walls and razor wire and a brand new tarmac?


You forgot the "abandoned under the dead of night without telling your allies"

And by allies I don't just mean the Afghanis, I mean *all* our allies. Which is why NATO is royally fricking pissed at the US right now.

But don't worry....we're building back better from our President who is nowhere to be fricking found.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69459 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:50 pm to
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Our general officer class as a whole is rotten to the core How did this happen?


One would assume that it started at the universities they graduated from, no?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 10:51 pm to
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How did this happen?


Flag Officers are political and follow political winds.

We have a President who doesn't give two fricks about this country. Therefore our senior military leadership also doesn't give two fricks.

They're too busy masturbating over White Rage and rooting out all three of the white supremacists.

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