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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Pisgah Pete
Buncombe County
Member since Feb 2021
602 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

don’t think it was the leader, but one of the men with him in the presidential palace. I think the leader was released by the Trump admin, but someone else can correct if that is wrong.


The guy released from GTMO under Obama was in one of the pictures at the presidential palace speaking about his time at GTMO. The leader is a different dude who was released under Trump.

Bickering/scoring gotchas over who released who is a lose lose distraction at this point. We detained a lot of bad guys and released a lot of bad guys in order to obtain something in return.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39507 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

Remarks by President Biden on the Drawdown of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan July 08, 2021

quote:

Q Mr. President, some Vietnamese veterans see echoes of their experience in this withdrawal in Afghanistan. Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam, with some people feeling —

THE PRESIDENT: None whatsoever. Zero. What you had is — you had entire brigades breaking through the gates of our embassy — six, if I’m not mistaken.

The Taliban is not the south — the North Vietnamese army. They’re not — they’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There’s going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the — of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable.

LINK
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:51 pm to
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The leader is a different dude who was released under Trump.

It is still kind of undecided who will be the official leader once everything shakes out. There are three or four guys who could, ultimately, become the leader, including the guy who is acting leader now.

I posted a really good article last night that breaks it all down with an overview of each guy. I'm not even going to attempt to go find the link, though.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:54 pm to
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MHO, the US military won't be conducting any "rescue" ops to bring people from various parts of Kabul to the airport.


Pay attention to what high ranking Pentagon officials and generals are saying. Earlier today, one made a comment about troops "on the ground in Kabul". Prior to that, they had all been careful to say, "troops are going to protect the airport". That slight difference in phrasing could prove significant.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 5:55 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10838 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:55 pm to
I expected their were fighters in the area

There is a USAF Stratofortess tanker loitering South of Kabul.

I guess they are keeping air support in the area in case the Taliban start to get to close to the airport.

There was a USAF reconnaissance and signals intelligence plane flying around Kabul and the surrounding mountains all afternoon. May have located a build up of Taliban offensive force in the area on surveillance film.

Have them a fly by to let them know the US has air support in the area. .
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 5:59 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:55 pm to
It’s a desperation move to blame trump or anything else other than that frick up biden. The only people in the world defending this crap are American leftists. It was the left that pushed for the closure of gitmo anyway
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41735 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:55 pm to
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The guy released from GTMO under Obama was in one of the pictures at the presidential palace speaking about his time at GTMO. The leader is a different dude who was released under Trump.

Bickering/scoring gotchas over who released who is a lose lose distraction at this point. We detained a lot of bad guys and released a lot of bad guys in order to obtain something in return.




Way to piss on the OBUMMER circle jerk a-hole
Posted by Pisgah Pete
Buncombe County
Member since Feb 2021
602 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:58 pm to
Americans have all the watches, but we have all the time

Thoughts on the Afghanistan withdrawal from writer/former SEAL Jack Carr.

A short, interesting piece with some historical perspective and assessment of how things were handled.

* Trigger Warning: guy was a SEAL and now writes books
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:59 pm to
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Way to piss on the OBUMMER circle jerk a-hole


What's your assessment of the response by our current POTUS?

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 5:59 pm to
@NoahCRothman (MSNBC/NBC)
quote:

“In Kabul, Tal­iban agents con­tin­ued search­ing the of­fices and homes of Afghans af­fil­i­ated with West­ern gov­ern­ments and or­ga­ni­za­tions … they in­spected res­i­dents’ smart­phones for il­licit con­tent—and for com­mu­ni­ca­tions in Eng­lish.” LINK
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41735 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:00 pm to
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What's your assessment of the response by our current POTUS?



Very bad
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:00 pm to
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* Trigger Warning: guy was a SEAL and now writes books

No way! What a trailblazer he is!
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54880 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Bickering/scoring gotchas over who released who is a lose lose distraction at this point. We detained a lot of bad guys and released a lot of bad guys in order to obtain something in return.
100%

I want looking for and don’t care about the gotchas, as I don’t care about any of those presidents. Just trying to keep info accurate as possible.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11214 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:03 pm to
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they in­spected res­i­dents’ smart­phones for il­licit con­tent

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:03 pm to
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Very bad


Just making sure you're consistent. Hard to find around this place.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:03 pm to
This is of note, kinda:

LINK
quote:

It is 3:24an in Kabul,
There is a sound of low flying fighter planes.
From sound it feel that jets are more than 2.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Pisgah Pete
Buncombe County
Member since Feb 2021
602 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:04 pm to
I replied to your post but my comment was more directed at a separate post above mine with the #TalibanTrump meme.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33951 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper

NEW Al Jazeera anchor says unlike Biden yesterday, Taliban spokesperson Mujahid took questions after his speech



Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41735 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Just making sure you're consistent. Hard to find around this place.



Is there anyone defending the admin on here? Other than conz? Haven't read the whole thread
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 6:06 pm to
That has to be an ATC nightmare - who is staffing their flight tower?
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