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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:28 pm to
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If I'm a SNCO I'm telling my guys we're going down fighting to the last man. If we're about to be overrun shoot the wounded and save a bullet for yourself.
Rudyard?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:29 pm to
I'm assuming this embassy has an actual helipad on the roof at least.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:29 pm to
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Wolfhound45

What are your thoughts on what we are seeing tonight?
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:29 pm to
I'm no expert on this but I don't think 1,000 is enough. IDK
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105316 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:30 pm to
He knew what was up.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:30 pm to
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The United States of America is spiraling into tyranny (to the sound of thunderous applause) via vaccine passports and slapping useless cloth masks on 2 year olds.

I can’t be bothered with what’s going on in bumfrick Afghanistan.



Why the hell would anyone sign up to fight for what we are now. I will defend my home region. Go to war to defend people in Portland who hate me? Or those clowns in DC? Negative.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9607 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

If I'm a SNCO I'm telling my guys we're going down fighting to the last man. If we're about to be overrun shoot the wounded and save a bullet for yourself.


Rudyard?



If your officer's dead and the sergeants look white,
Remember it's ruin to run from a fight:
So take open order, lie down, and sit tight,
And wait for supports like a soldier.
Wait, wait, wait like a soldier . . .

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!

Rudyard Kipling
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 10:55 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13901 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:35 pm to
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I'm no expert on this but I don't think 1,000 is enough. IDK
Local news said Ol' Joe is upping it to 5,000.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:37 pm to
This all makes me sick to my stomach.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

What are your thoughts on what we are seeing tonight?

Sick to my stomach. I have avoided all of the Afghanistan threads because of this. So many lives destroyed for this travesty.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:38 pm to
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Local news said Ol' Joe is upping it to 5,000.
And they’ll get them to the embassy how?

4000 people would require an insane number of helicopters.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:39 pm to
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He knew what was up.
Yes he did.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Local news said Ol' Joe is upping it to 5,000.

Did they include the little caveat that most of those troops won't be in the country until, "the end of the week"?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75194 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:41 pm to
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Sick to my stomach. I have avoided all of the Afghanistan threads because of this. So many lives destroyed for this travesty.

I will never pretend to know how you folks feel watching this. All I can say is thank you for your service and give my condolences for the friends and brothers you lost.

There's no rosey spin to put on this shitshow.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 10:46 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
13901 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:42 pm to
Kabul may just be a reverse Chosin. Why put more American lives into danger?

I'm not trying to be political (one way or the other) but this is absolutely have an effect on the midterms. The Benghazi hearings will look like child's play.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105316 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:42 pm to
From what I've read, of the original three battalions one of the Marine battalions has organic lift capability. the other Marine battalion and the Army battalion don't. I haven't seen anything about the 82nd brigade bringing any aviation assets. I hope they do or it will be pretty dicey. Also, I'm wondering about in-theater close air support. They-re going to need on-call assets overhead 24/7. That's hard to do with carrier aircraft flying two hours each way to get there.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:47 pm to
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Also, I'm wondering about in-theater close air support. They-re going to need on-call assets overhead 24/7. That's hard to do with carrier aircraft flying two hours each way to get there.



That's the thing. Kabul isn't anywhere close to naval assets so they aren't going to be able to fly people out on copters like they did Saigon.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:50 pm to
As long as the helicopters have aerial refueling capabilities they can fly them out.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11941 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:51 pm to
I bet the Taliban are wearing masks like good boys.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 10:52 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

As long as the helicopters have aerial refueling capabilities they can fly them out.


You're talking 1000's of people.

Around 50 on a Chinook.

Think.
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