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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:54 pm to
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White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that there are about 11,000 “self-identified” US citizens remaining in Afghanistan, who still need to be evacuated.

But Pentagon press secretary John Kirby had previously put that number somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000, demonstrating the interagency confusion within the Biden administration as Kabul evacuation efforts continue, a Politico editor noted.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:54 pm to
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This is completely MIND BLOWING to me. We can't track our own military assets worth billions? cool.

We can't even track the number of American civilians in the capital city of a country that is an active war zone, baw.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:54 pm to
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670 Afghans who hadn't served #US #mission were #evacuated the the night before last night in the 1st flight who are now in the US

Our allies were hiding in fear for their lives. They couldn’t make it to the airport. Maybe the 670 were ordinary citizens, but maybe they were able to safely make it to the airport because they had safe passage from the Taliban.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:54 pm to
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As of a day or so ago, there wasn’t a large contingent of Taliban in Kabul. More were on the way and may be there now. However, doing something that forces US retaliation is the last thing they want right now as the US is voluntarily leaving and losing credibility on the world stage in the process.



I'm worried we'll get into a spot where the administration looks the other way to avoid growing the confrontation. "You were fired on by the Taliban on the way to the airport? How can you know that, it'd be a lot better if that didn't happen."

The reality is, I think, the Taliban knows the quickest way to pretty unfettered control is to let the Americans get our top priorities out. This administration will cave and leave plenty of Afghans behind and the Taliban knows that, but they know Biden can't let that happen to citizens or very close assets. But, I also question how successful the Taliban leadership will be in keeping all of its elements in line if this drags on a few weeks.

And truth be told, Biden wanting to avoid having to go to war over a citizen getting killed is a legitimate political consideration. It's happened over and over again in our meddling, and I get it. But that's what's at stake when you let a shitshow develop like this. An isolated bad incident involving one of our people and this catastrophe goes nuclear.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75833 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:55 pm to
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White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that there are about 11,000 “self-identified” US citizens remaining in Afghanistan, who still need to be evacuated.

But Pentagon press secretary John Kirby had previously put that number somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000, demonstrating the interagency confusion within the Biden administration as Kabul evacuation efforts continue, a Politico editor noted.


THEY. DO. NOT. KNOW.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11214 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:55 pm to
Since Joe doesn’t seem up to it this week maybe Hunter can take over temporarily to right the ship
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42639 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:56 pm to
That region of the world has some of the most beautiful women. Too bad all are criminally repressed and oppressed.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:57 pm to
If we had a real administration; the CIA would stop doing black market drug sales from Afghanistan and jump on Hunter Biden's art collection / NFTs / and Crypto.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104382 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:57 pm to
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Maybe the 670 were ordinary citizens, but maybe they were able to safely make it to the airport because they had safe passage from the Taliban.


Or maybe they were planted there by the Taliban.
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6668 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Since Joe doesn’t seem up to it this week maybe Hunter can take over temporarily to right the ship


Would be kinda funny to have our president smoke crack and then get up and address the nation.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71771 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:58 pm to
I imagine there has been a discussion among officials on a number of acceptable American deaths over this. I'm sure it also included the best way to minimize public knowledge of the eventual death toll.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Reports say that 670 Afghans who hadn't served #US #mission were #evacuated the the night before last night in the 1st flight who are now in the US. OMG! is US confused in identifying #allies or doing this deliberately ?. Allies are stranded for dead.
@Jeannie_Hartley @holmescnn LINK


So....who, exactly are we getting out of the country?

Imagine the conditions of being stranded IN that ramshackle of an airport.

It's not like this is some international airport like O'Hare, Atlanta, Houston, etc. It's a one runway stripe of an airport with little to no facilities for passengers.
Folks aren't sitting in air conditioned surroundings waiting for their flight at the restaurant/bar. Restrooms, food, water and necessities can't be readily available and they've been there for freaking days waiting to get evacuated.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134973 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Surely he's keeping himself busy with the work of our country in other ways.


He’s currently tapping into the strategic Tapioca Reserve, and has ensured that Depends Manufacturing will not falter
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6668 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:00 pm to
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Folks aren't sitting in air conditioned surroundings waiting for their flight at the restaurant/bar. Restrooms, food, water and necessities can't be readily available and they've been there for freaking days waiting to get evacuated.


Not true, they have a bad arse Chili's in that airport. Can be kind of a hassle to get to if you fly Southwest though.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:01 pm to
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This is very confusing. We’re beefing up airport security, but don’t have a plan to get the thousands to the airport safely? Not to mention, just yesterday they were told to shelter in place.

What a shite show, can’t imagine what they feel like. Damn near completely abandoned and left for dead by the president/government.

US Embassy in Kabul tells Americans to shelter in place; Afghan president flees the country


After this shite show, Republicans should win 90% of the House and every seat in the Senate outside of Vermont and Hawaii. This is just unbelievable.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134973 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:01 pm to
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This is completely MIND BLOWING to me. We can't track our own military assets worth billions? cool.


Not even a LoJack.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87694 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:02 pm to
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I imagine there has been a discussion among officials on a number of acceptable American deaths over this. I'm sure it also included the best way to minimize public knowledge of the eventual death toll.



"car accident"
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30970 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:03 pm to
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The reality is, I think, the Taliban knows the quickest way to pretty unfettered control is to let the Americans get our top priorities out

Agree. If the Taliban wanted bloodshed/revenge for years of occupation, then the airport would likely be a war zone right now.

Now is the time to provide armed escorts, evacuating. It feels like the Taliban wants us all out, and to seal off their country, outside communication (north korea’ish) and install militant Islam with total control.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:04 pm to
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Agree. If the Taliban wanted bloodshed/revenge for years of occupation, then the airport would likely be a war zone right now.


If they massacre the airport, then the Biden administration would have the excuse to start bombing. I think they’re going to mostly leave the airport alone for the next two weeks changing in September.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30053 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Agree. If the Taliban wanted bloodshed/revenge for years of occupation, then the airport would likely be a war zone right now.



quote:

Now is the time to provide armed escorts, evacuating.
The Pentagon said they are not equipped for that and this is not their mission.

All of the western press are at the Airport which is why they haven't stormed the place. Its good PR not to kill everyone on camera but behind the scenes out of the cameras eyes is a different story.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:07 pm
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