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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:40 pm to
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back to Camp David immediately after his worthless presser rather than stay in the WH working tirelessly to bring US people back home.


Biden isn't making any decisions. Those people in DC don't trust him to. He's spoon fed propaganda and talking points, as you could tell by the presser today.

He's nothing but a cardboard cutout at this point. Unelected people are running the country.
Posted by psychonAUt_tiger
Member since Aug 2021
97 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:41 pm to
Let me be more clear. Do you think Biden had no communication with military command/assets/allies regarding Afghanistan while he was at Camp David?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30052 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:43 pm to
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Biden isn't making any decisions. Those people in DC don't trust him to. He's spoon fed propaganda and talking points, as you could tell by the presser today.

He's nothing but a cardboard cutout at this point. Unelected people are running the country.


I couldn't agree with your statements more forcefully. Biden is clearly mentally and cognitively impaired.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:44 pm to
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Do you think Biden had no communication with military command/assets/allies regarding Afghanistan while he was at Camp David?


Of course not. He simply chose to ignore them and not take any action.

The current situation points to this rather succinctly.


I've already said the POTUS is in constant communication, no matter where he is. Several of my NCOs have served on WHCA. In fact one NCO was on Biden's team for four years when he was VP.

He just simply chose to not give a frick until pressured to make a statement today....a statement where he gave zero assurances and shifted the blame to everyone else.


This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11214 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:44 pm to
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Let me be more clear. Do you think Biden had no communication with military command/assets/allies regarding Afghanistan while he was at Camp David?

No one thinks that. People are rightfully pissed because Biden refused to publicly comment or address us for three days
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7980 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:45 pm to
this is good stuff. Kurt Schlichter on being played by Biden and his surrogates

twitter

Beware of stupid people and people pretending to be stupid for effect...

Right now, Biden is more concerned with salvaging his popularity than with the disaster his incompetence unleashed. And his narrative janitors are doing their best to mop up the blood he's spilled...

1/
If you think "But Trump invited the bad guys to negotiate at Camp David" or "Trump's deal freed a bunch of prisoners" are some sort of gotcha that put this on Trump, you're dumb or you think your followers are...

2/
There are three ways a war ends. Just three. No more, no less. Three.
1 - Win
2 - Negotiate a peace
3- Lose

3/
We've taken Win off the table. Neither Trump nor Biden nor anyone else is willing to take the time, spend money, and spill the blood to win this war.

4/
To win would require a combination of the Boer War tactic of emptying the country side with the Roman tactic of pretty much killing everyone else. We're just not going to do that, so we won't win against tribesmen who just will not give up.

5/
The next option was negotiate a deal. Trump did that. When you negotiate, you negotiate, so asking them to visit Camp David is hardly some shocking concession. And when wars end with a deal, prisoners go free. What, you think any deal would keep them locked up forever?

6/
Trump made a deal. It called for the Taliban to power share and had us withdraw most forces in May. The Taliban broke the deal. They attacked. But Biden did nothing, except lengthen the withdrawal time. He did not enforce the deal.

7/
Biden also took longer to leave than Trump would have, assuming the ridiculous scenario that Trump would continue with the treaty while the Taliban broke their part and not retaliate. So Biden had MORE time to plan and execute a smooth departure. Yet he didn't.

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The last alternative is to lose. Biden chose that option. And so did every jerk who complains that Trump negotiated. Win, negotiate or lose. Pick one. If you disqualify negotiating, and you won't win, that leaves losing. If you're willing to lose, own it, loser.

9/
So, their argument, to the extent that it is an argument and not a cheesy ploy to distract from Biden's disgraceful, disastrous failure, is that Trump tried to negotiate a peace, and the Taliban broke the deal, and so Biden had no choice but to lose. Huh?

10/
Baloney. When you hear dumb/dishonest people trying to confuse the strategy (leave Afghanistan) with the tactics (Trump via enforcing the deal, Biden via cutting and running), you know you're being played or in the presence of an idiot. Maybe both.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:24 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:45 pm to
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Biden is clearly mentally and cognitively impaired.


It's painfully obvious. Well, it was before to most people but if someone can't see it now, they're just deluded.

The ole Deep State is in control.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:47 pm to
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This is a MUST watch piece by the UK's ITV News. This is brutal and makes the Biden Admin look like morons. Best segment I've seen by anyone so far since this started.

Yep. That dude has some balls on him. I posted it a page or two back. It helps call bullshite on some of the "life is normal" shite we are hearing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:48 pm to
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this is good stuff. Kurt Schlichter on being played by Biden and his surrogates


Wow, that's brutal.
Posted by psychonAUt_tiger
Member since Aug 2021
97 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:48 pm to
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Of course not.

Gotcha. Didn't want to misunderstand what you were saying.

quote:

He simply chose to ignore them and not take any action.

So the Pentagon confirming they will "provide protection, air transportation, and processing of up to 30,000 at-risk individuals from Kabul" was orchestrated by whom?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75788 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:50 pm to
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Biden isn't making any decisions. Those people in DC don't trust him to. He's spoon fed propaganda and talking points, as you could tell by the presser today.

This is pretty much the truth. People will downvote you for it, but it is true.

He didn't even know the number of troops we have sent, yet is supposedly the person who ordered it. He was off by 1,000. He also had other key facts/happenings wrong. It seems he wasn't quite vague enough with his "address".
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:51 pm to
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So the Pentagon confirming they will "provide protection, air transportation, and processing of up to 30,000 at-risk individuals from Kabul" was orchestrated by whom?



I'll wait until this actually happens.

But to answer your question, you answered it in the third word of your post.



Posted by psychonAUt_tiger
Member since Aug 2021
97 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:54 pm to
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I'll wait until this actually happens.


Okay.

quote:

But to answer your question, you answered it in the third word of your post.


So the Pentagon is just operating outside the direction of the Executive at their own discretion? Got it.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5209 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:56 pm to
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Yet he wasn't. And his press secretary set a fricking Out of Office Reply.

The optics here are beyond juvenile.


Absolutely. I don’t think anyone is claiming this administration hasn’t made many mistakes in handling this situation. They definitely have.

But that doesn’t make this “he went to Camp David so he went on vacation” claim that you and other posters have made any less ridiculous.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:56 pm to
I have never seen America so verbally brutalized by our allies before.

This is 1979 all over again.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:56 pm to
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So the Pentagon is just operating outside the direction of the Executive at their own discretion?


Tends to happen when the Executive gives no guidance for 96 hours.

Posted by Rattlehead82
Florida
Member since Sep 2009
2159 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:57 pm to
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this is good stuff. Kurt Schlichter on being played by Biden and his surrogates


Hate to be a bother, but could someone give me the gist of what he says after the 6th tweet in that thread? I don't have a Twitter account and that's as far as I can read.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32251 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:57 pm to
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psychonAUt_tiger

After what you’ve seen in the last 72 hrs all the way up to that presser today, how can you still throw up a defense for Biden, his advisors or anyone tasked with running the country? This shite is indefensible.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46636 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:57 pm to
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But that doesn’t make this “he went to Camp David so he went on vacation” claim that you and other posters have made any less ridiculous.


It's not that he went to Camp David.

it's that he was silent for over three days.

Why can you not comprehend this simple concept?

Posted by psychonAUt_tiger
Member since Aug 2021
97 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:57 pm to
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Absolutely. I don’t think anyone is claiming this administration hasn’t made many mistakes in handling this situation. They definitely have.

But that doesn’t make this “he went to Camp David so he went on vacation” claim that you and other posters have made any less ridiculous.


Exactly. It's one thing to acknowledge the reality of the situation (that this is a massive clusterfrick)... it's another thing to fabricate bullshite about it.
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