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Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:06 am to TBoy
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It hardly seems fair that Russia is limited to its own borders
Hmmm. Quite a standard that a country should be limited to it's own border. Really makes ya think.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:07 am to VOR
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It’s a blow to Putin
Eh, it is a blow to the U.S.
We really need to pause our involvement in the rest of the world and re-evaluate what is important to the U.S.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:07 am to LuckyTiger
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Or, perhaps Russia and China cooperate militarily because it’s in both their interests to do so?
They really don't like each other that much. It would only matter in land warfare anyway, and I don't see China sending infantry to Ukraine. In Naval warfare, we'd absolutely wreck them (combined) in the Pacific. All Russia has is a few subs at Kamchatka and China lacks the blue water capability to push past the First Island Chain if there's any resistance. Japan alone would make quick work of the Russian Fleet....and it wouldn't be the first time.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:07 am to VOR
Which branch of the US military did you serve in?
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:07 am to VOR
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It’s a blow to Putin
the fairy tales that come from this conflict are extremely entertaining.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:09 am to ThuperThumpin
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Sweden in particular has been pretty well known as a little military powerhouse.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:13 am to ThuperThumpin
They spend 1.35% of GDP on defense and have a 6,850 man army.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:15 am to LuckyTiger
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I pointed out some links that showed otherwise. I’m just doing this here once again, for the record.
Links that showed you weren’t a Putin fan?? Please share!
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:16 am to cwill
Oh noz not a Puitn fan!!!
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:20 am to LuckyTiger
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Then perhaps we should be limited to our own borders?
We haven't left our borders. Neither has Sweden or Finland. This is not a game of RISK. The unified nations of Western Europe don't want war with anyone. That is the very basis for NATO.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:21 am to VOR
One step closer to our one world gov't that will be led by the same group of elites and the CIA.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:22 am to VOR
Another leach on the American taxpayers.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:23 am to cwill
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Links that showed you weren’t a Putin fan??
There it is again. Just for the record.
Again, we were told these accusations aren’t made.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:26 am to TBoy
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We haven't left our borders. Neither has Sweden or Finland. This is not a game of RISK. The unified nations of Western Europe don't want war with anyone. That is the very basis for NATO.
Your first sentence is simply not reality.
Regarding your last two, is that why NATO bombed/invaded Yugoslavia? Libya? Afghanistan? Because they don’t want war?
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:29 am to TBoy
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The unified nations of Western Europe don't want war with anyone. That is the very basis for NATO.
You judge people by what they do
We pursued an aggressive policy of an expansion, that pushed NATO to Russias border, and in this period, fought a war on behalf of some nasty people, the KLA, in order to hobble one of Russias historic allies, we overthrew the government in Kiev, in the name of the cause, sparking a civil war, we then invested heavily in building up the Ukrainian Army, sabotaging any effort to make a permanent settlement there, and now we have the largest conventional war in Europe since the 1940s.
We don’t want peace, we clearly want war.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:30 am to LuckyTiger
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Or, perhaps Russia and China cooperate militarily because it’s in both their interests to do so?
This as been a boasted threat since 1945. The Mongols and China invaded russia once and ran them for 200 years. Neither country has forgot that.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:34 am to goatmilker
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The Mongols and China invaded russia once and ran them for 200 years.
And the Russians have taken a chunk of China (Outer Manchuria) and Japan (Sakhalin Island). There's no love lost between any of them.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:36 am to goatmilker
You will see Russia and China increase cooperation on almost every geopolitical front now and in the future because it is in both their interests to do so in reaction to the action of a common threat. You’re already seeing it. It is Coase Theorem in its base form.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:37 am to LuckyTiger
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There it is again. Just for the record.
Again, we were told these accusations aren’t made.
I have not made an accusation, in fact I noted people that are big mad about Sweden joining NATO are definitely not Putin fans...they dislike it for other more circumspect, intellectual reasons. I thought you had links to that. I clearly misread.
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