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re: Susan Rice email shows that Obama and Comey agreed NOT to proceed "by the book"

Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:49 am to
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:49 am to
I believe that thought was rendered by the continued use in expressing the “rule of law” as cryptic messaging. They knew, we know you know and I know and everyone else knows too. But the thing is nobody will prove anything unless lightning is caught and someone in the inner circle has a crisis of conscious comes forward with absolute proof, not happening. It’s just fodder but a great reminder of what the nefarious actions of leadership does
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:51 am to
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But couple this email where they are discussing a Russian collusion potential with the incoming Admin, with the fact that they are the ones that created the Russian collusion ruse, then it takes on a diff meaning.


The Flynn-Russia stuff doesn't directly overlap with the Russiagate allegations, though. Same with Manafort's history.

Russia 100% did engage in chicanery and access with people in Trump's orbit. Some of it was overblown with the Steele Dossier, but that doesn't eliminate all the other real stuff Russia did. Also, Russia was not exclusively targeting Trump or those in his orbit, as they were engaging in all sorts of actions across various mediums.

That's why trying to boil everything down simply doesn't work and is what they're relying on for NPCs to run with this incorrect, simplistic version of the story.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:04 am to
You guys gaslight yourselves on everything. J6, the Russians were nowhere around the 2016 election, 2020 was rigged and stolen, Iran is a huge victory for us, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:08 am to
I mean there are very real examples unrelated to the Steele Dossier that 100% occurred, like the meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower

Now, did the campaign handle that bait and switch by Russia well? Yes, but it is just a clear, undisputed example of Russia's attempts to integrate themselves into the campaign. Then you have Manafort's bullshite, Flynn's bullshite, etc. All of this has nothing to do with the Steele Dossier or the investigations that sprung from it.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:13 am to
They conveniently forget all of that.

Not to mention the classified Senate Intel report and whatever else the IC knew at the time suggestive of Russian interference.

They want pretend that Oval Office meeting happened in a vacuum and ignore everything in the months prior to it.

Which is fine for working yourselves into a masturbatory lather on a message board, but is much more difficult to confront in a jury trial.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:15 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:17 am to
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They conveniently forget all of that.


Well there are 2 groups.

There are the people who don't forget, but lump everything as "Russiagate" and then there are the NPCs who don't know any different and run and repeat the content they're given (by the dishonest content creators).

This isn't specific to Trump, either. Did Russia have access or leverage on people in the Obama admin? Almost certainly. I mean I'll give you one easy example: Michael Flynn.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:19 am to
Obama keeps talking as if he matters. Everyone knows he was behind the Russia collusion hoax as a means to undermine an election.

When Hussein said “ we don’t know the motives of” the scum that tried to assinate Trump and his cabinet he lost all remaining credibility which wasn’t much.

That trash can style presidential library is appropriate.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:22 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:21 am to
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Susan Rice met with Bill Clinton on a plane on the tarmac.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:07 am to
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How can the President engage in a coup while President?


If he is engaging in creating an eventual coup against his incoming successor. This would be untrod legal land where Presidential immunity might need to be rethought and refined to keep it (setting the successor up for failure through constant investigations based on false evidence) from becoming the norm.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:11 am to
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If he is engaging in creating an eventual coup against his incoming successor. This would be untrod legal land where Presidential immunity might need to be rethought and refined to keep it (setting the successor up for failure through constant investigations based on false evidence) from becoming the norm.


Who are we talking about here? Trump?
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 10:12 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:14 am to
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I mean there are very real examples unrelated to the Steele Dossier that 100% occurred, like the meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower


Also, the GRU hack and dump operation that still has so many Trumpkins in denial.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:17 am to
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Also, the GRU hack and dump operation that still has so many Trumpkins in denial.


But we never invaded Russia to capture those we indicted so it wasn’t real!
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:23 am to
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How can the President engage in a coup while President?


Something something peaceful transition of power.
Posted by NCaddoTigerfan
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:00 am to
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Who are we talking about here? Trump?


Has Trump created his own private task force to promote and then prosecute knowingly false allegations against his successor?

No? Then we can't be talking about Trump.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:05 am to
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Has Trump created his own private task force to promote and then prosecute knowingly false allegations against his successor?


Yes, Trump’s DOJ Weaponization Working Group. (Don’t know who the successor(s) could be but he is certainly targeting his perceived enemies)

He also attempted to stay in power after he lost in 2020, remember?
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:11 am
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:23 am to
Holder continued his "dirty work" for biden. He led the administration's Federal Housing Dept., specifically, the use of Federal funding to focus on multiple residents housing.....Sec. 8 housing. At the same time, to limit Federal funds for single resident housing....general houses for suburban - like developments.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:28 am to
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Yes, Trump’s DOJ Weaponization Working Group.


How is investigating the possible abuses of power by a predecessor a coup attempt against an incoming successor who hasn't even been named yet because we're still years away from that election?

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He also attempted to stay in power after he lost in 2020, remember?


You mean the 01/06 riot he repeatedly instructed attendees against doing anything other than remaining peaceful?

Or maybe you mean the instigators, especially those like John Earle Sullivan who were in opposition to Trump and went there to purposely try to agitate the crowd into violence?

Or maybe you mean that Speaker Pelosi refused the President's request for 10k national guard troops for the event?

Or maybe you mean the multiple bizarre voting irregularities from around the country which were initially thrown out of court because somehow Trump being a candidate somehow had "no standing"?

Or maybe you mean the fake story about how he was supposed to have tried taking over the presidential limo?

You mean those things which either didn't happen or Trump had no control over are somehow the same as knowingly creating a conspiracy to use faked information in order to try to destroy the incoming administration's ability to govern and possibly get them removed from office under false pretenses?

Your attempts at equivalency need work.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:30 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:30 am to
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If he is engaging in creating an eventual coup against his incoming successor.

But there was no coup that materialized? That "eventual coup" does not exist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:32 am to
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You mean the 01/06 riot he repeatedly instructed attendees against doing anything other than remaining peaceful?


I think he means pressuring Pence to act illegally and then filing a bunch of failing lawsuits that had no factual support, to the point where multiple attorneys have been disbarred for engaging in the absurdity.
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