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re: Susan Rice email shows that Obama and Comey agreed NOT to proceed "by the book"

Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:19 pm to
The guy who authored a book about that meeting died by suicide in Tuscaloosa after moving back there because he felt his life was being threatened (maybe in Phoenix).

I used to know the guy’s brother in law (Lafayette family) who confirmed the suicide story and completely discounted the conspiracy theory. Of course, he was a big Trump hater so always made me wonder.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9536 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:19 pm to
Anyone going to get arrested, this time?
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
990 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:21 pm to
The senate report had half cocked info and absolutely zero access to what we know now

Please tell me how much money Russians spent on social media adds and how many Russians were prosecuted by Mueller.

That entire charade from Warner (wolfe leaker) banks on manafort with Kilimnick and the trump tower meeting, where valanaskyia (sp) met with fusion gps prior.

Here is a link about Kilimnick

Link
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:26 pm to
Alright, now we’re getting somewhere.

Was the Senate Intel report also run by the Obama IC apparatus and part of this conspiracy or was it a different op altogether?
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
990 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:37 pm to
No. It also relied on shitty info. As I mentioned.

What was the Russian influence in the trump campaign? Manafort? Kilimnik? Trump tower? Social media ads?

Mueller didn't even mention Kilimniks work with the state department.

Again, it's fairly simple to understand what occured in early 2016 up to the PDB that Obama buried, leading to the ICA and the Russian hoax narrative in early 2017, leading to Mueller.

There's zero room to discard those facts.

You can bank on Warners senate report until you are blue in the face, it's not aligned with documented, current public knowledge.

Intelligence and documents clearly outline this, and they went ahead with the plan anyways.

First time in US history there wasn't a "peaceful" transition of power.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:39 pm to
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First time in US history there wasn't a "peaceful" transition of power.

But it was peaceful and other than PR or self-inflicted issues (Mueller, who was appointed by the Trump DOJ no matter how you spin it), nothing came of it.

There was no Russiagate impeachment.

The Mueller report was one of Trump's biggest victories in admin 1.

Russiagate in no way hurt Trump's ability to govern in any way
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
990 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:46 pm to
You have to be obtuse to believe that. The entire new ICA in January was specifically employed to kneecap the incoming administration, and it worked.



Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:11 pm to
Qualifiers like serious!

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:45 pm to
Love this for you. I had a feeling you had it in you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:51 pm to
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The entire new ICA in January was specifically employed to kneecap the incoming administration, and it worked.


Give me tactile ways it "kneecapped" the administration that aren't PR or from the Trump admin itself.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32762 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
990 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:11 pm to
24/7 Russia talk, at least up to the midterms. Both NYT and WAPO complete coverage. Flynn getting canned. Comey firing leading to Rosenstein and 24/7 Mueller. Inability to build executive branch how you want. Sessions gone. Complete breakdown of foreign policy ability.

The list goes on and on. Frankly, not recognizing how detrimental the entire lie was to ruining a presidency because it's a complete onslaught from Dems, agencies, bad actors, media and others.

Not being able to recognize or admit that is what happened is duplicitous.

Seems you do it on purpose, when reality is obvious.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:14 pm to
In Florida, I presume?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:16 pm to
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24/7 Russia talk, at least up to the midterms. Both NYT and WAPO complete coverage.


So....PR

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Mueller.

Nope. That's the Trump admin's doing. You can't cite Mueller or his investigation.

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Inability to build executive branch how you want.

Who was specifically prevented due to Russiagate?

Flynn's issues weren't related to Russiagate, mind you.

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Sessions gone.



You're REALLY reaching here

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Complete breakdown of foreign policy ability.

You need some support for this. Preferably not from X influencers.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28170 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:18 pm to
Sounds insurrection-y to me...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Sounds insurrection-y to me...


How can the Obama admin engage in insurrection of their own government?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50051 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:27 pm to
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Fauxbama


There are still many here who refuse to see how much damage this America-hating race-baiting community AGITATOR did to the country. Not to mention that he absolutely destroyed race relations.

This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
990 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:38 pm to
Dude,

You are reaching massively here. You have to be insufferable in person. Starting to see why a lot of people simply don't engage with you.

PR? Are you kidding. It was the only topic of discussion in 2017. Trump Russia. Sessions had to recuse from the Russia investigation because of public pressure. You're telling me Trump could have just said no and everything would have been just ok?

I just posted a video of Pelosi staring the fact they needed an outside investigation (Mueller) to get to the bottom of it! This is while Comey and everyone else from the Obama era Intel knew for a fact! There was nothing there! It fricking documented!

Flynn issues? He got railroaded because he was talking to the Russian diplomat, which is his job! Every single other presidency had done so, yet the driving Russia narrative turned it into a turkey shoot!

They had been on Flynn since very early 2016. Possibly sooner.

Foreign policy? Every single country was being told that Trump was a Russian asset via the US media and Democrats. They thought he was done. Of course it would be a anchor on foreign policy. Not understanding, or not recognizing that, is your problem.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32762 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:43 pm to
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PR? Are you kidding. It was the only topic of discussion in 2017. Trump Russia. Sessions had to recuse from the Russia investigation because of public pressure. You're telling me Trump could have just said no and everything would have been just ok?


A reminder that Trump himself was not a subject or target until he fired Comey earning an obstruction of justice investigation.

But yeah, your complaint seems to be basically about PR.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68460 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Flynn issues? He got railroaded because he was talking to the Russian diplomat, which is his job! Every single other presidency had done so, yet the driving Russia narrative turned it into a turkey shoot!


I think it was Bongino who had a theory that the reason Obama expelled a bunch of diplomats is they wanted to see how Flynn reacted when they listened to his call.
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