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re: Susan Rice email shows that Obama and Comey agreed NOT to proceed "by the book"

Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:34 am to
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:34 am to
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Russia 100% did engage in chicanery and access with people in Trump's orbit.


Chicanery… I believe that’s a legal term
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:34 am to
It's beyond malarky but not quite tomfoolery
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:36 am to
Obama is really good at skirting the book. He wasn’t even born in the US after all
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:07 pm to
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But there was no coup that materialized?


There was indeed an attempted coup, that's what the Russian Collusion investigations were. They used information they knew was faked in an attempt to rush into an Impeachment proceeding before the fact that it was all based on a lie became known.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:08 pm to
Paul Manafort’s participation was going to get additional scrutiny for obvious reasons. Fishy as hell.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:09 pm to
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There was indeed an attempted coup, that's what the Russian Collusion investigations were.


Where was this coup materialized?

They didn't impeach him over it.

His own DOJ appointed Mueller to investigate, so that doesn't work either.

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They used information they knew was faked in an attempt to rush into an Impeachment

When did this impeachment over Russiagate occur?
Posted by Chili Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
761 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:20 pm to
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How can the President engage in a coup while President?



When he was still in office for two months after Hillary lost and saw the need to cover his tracks. This isn’t difficult.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Where was this coup materialized?

With things like the multiple FISA warrants obtained under false or missing exculpatory information (Carter Page's work with the CIA being lied about, use of the Steele dossier knowing it had not been verified and not disclosing its biases, failure to update the court on information which could have weakened the probably cause, Woods Procedures violations, etc) and the attempts to cover that up in order to pursue both Senate and House investigations over the claim that Trump colluded with the Russian government in an attempt to somehow rig the 2016 election.

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When did this impeachment over Russiagate occur?


Perhaps you missed the word "attempted"?
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:23 pm to
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When he was still in office for two months after Hillary lost and saw the need to cover his tracks. This isn’t difficult.




fantasy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:23 pm to
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Perhaps you missed the word "attempted"?

When did any serious impeachment attempt over Russiagate occur?

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With things like the multiple FISA warrants obtained under false or missing exculpatory information (Carter Page's work with the CIA being lied about, use of the Steele dossier knowing it had not been verified and not disclosing its biases, failure to update the court on information which could have weakened the probably cause, Woods Procedures violations, etc) and the attempts to cover that up in order to pursue both Senate and House investigations over the claim that Trump colluded with the Russian government in an attempt to somehow rig the 2016 election.

Which of these occurred during the Trump Presidency while not being done by the Trump DOJ (which includes Mueller's investigation)?
Posted by StevieG504
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:29 pm to
Obama is so gheyy
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
990 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:29 pm to
While nothing is going to happen to Obama, what you call fantasy is documented.

The presidential briefing in early December, which is to be shared with the incoming president elect was buried because CIA Intel and others said there was no Russian collusion with Trump.

Obama ordered a new ICA and that was produced in January saying the opposite.

There is a favorite quote from clapper about this. "Be a team player".

They fabricated it entirely, since early 2016.

This is all documented and public, as of summer 2025.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Which of these occurred during the Trump Presidency while not being done by the Trump DOJ (which includes Mueller's investigation)?


Trump knew he did nothing wrong. Are you suggesting he should have shut down the investigations which were begun under the idea of finding evidence against him, but he knew there was nothing to find?

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When did any serious impeachment attempt over Russiagate occur?


The investigations were a precursor, had they actually found anything and/or had the Steele Dossier hadn't so quickly proven to be fraudulent, a serious Impeachment attempt would have been the next step. Hell, Adam Schiff is still claiming he has evidence that Trump colluded with Putin to somehow rig the 2016 election.

Outside of the Beltway, is Tom Arnold still looking for the "pee tapes"?
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:53 pm to
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They are the best at blaming others for shite they do themselves


How this looks in gif form:
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:54 pm to
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They fabricated it entirely, since early 2016.


Was the Senate Intelligence report a complete fabrication as well?
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:55 pm to
Why do politicians always write emails to themselves exposing their crimes? It's baffling
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Some of it was overblown with the Steele Dossier
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

When did any serious impeachment attempt over Russiagate occur?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Trump knew he did nothing wrong. Are you suggesting he should have shut down the investigations which were begun under the idea of finding evidence against him, but he knew there was nothing to find?

You're the one trying to turn Trump's actions into a "coup"

All of your ways to construct this "Coup" have fallen apart

quote:

The investigations were a precursor, had they actually found anything and/or had the Steele Dossier hadn't so quickly proven to be fraudulent, a serious Impeachment attempt would have been the next step.


Had they actually found anything nefarious, what would even be the problem with impeachment?
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 1:15 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:15 pm to
No serious impeachment was ever commenced against Trump for Russiagate.
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