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re: Supreme Court being formally asked to overturn Obergefell; gay marriage will fall

Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:51 am to
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1875 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:51 am to
I don't really see an issue with gay marriage. I think everyone should have a partner/spouse that they share and build a life with. And it makes sense in the current world that even same sex couples need healthcare benefits, life insurance payouts, and ability to serve their partner in times of need.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:52 am to
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frick em let then get married, just ban them from ever adopting kids


I agree in a vacuum. You can however draw a direct line from allowing gay marriage to all of the gender ideology insanity. It needs to be struck down. Creating law by fiat by way of the court is wrong here just like it was wrong in Roe
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:53 am to
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Creating law by fiat by way of the court is wrong here just like it was wrong in Roe


And Loving

And Griswold

These cases are all progeny of Griswold
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20980 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:53 am to
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I can’t watch someone wearing a damn beanie cap indoors, and in the middle of the damn summer at that. What the frick is wrong with people?

I don't know how anyone takes that guy seriously. But he has a huge audience, so maybe I'm missing something. I don't think so though.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:53 am to
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theliontamer


See my comment above. Plus it allows them adopt kids which curiously they choose boys at above a 90% clip and we all know why
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7075 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:55 am to
I don't think SCOTUS will take it up. its a big reach and every other court has passed on it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:55 am to
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I don't think SCOTUS will take it up. its a big reach and every other court has passed on it.

Correct

The 6th Circuit was unanimous in rejecting her appeal.

LINK

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The damages were awarded after a federal judge ruled that Davis violated the plaintiffs’ rights when she denied them a marriage license. Davis was also ordered to pay an additional $260,000 in legal fees.

The denial came just days after the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2015 landmark ruling that guaranteed same-sex couples the right to get married.

Davis appealed to the Sixth Circuit, arguing her then position of clerk for Rowan County granted her immunity and that the record did not support the calculation of emotional damages.

However, the panel unanimously disagreed with Davis, finding that the matter of immunity was settled and that she was not entitled to a reversal on that issue.


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The panel also rejected arguments from Davis that her conduct was shielded by the First Amendment because she was acting as a government official.

“That binary is outcome-determinative here because the act for which Davis is being held liable — denying plaintiffs a marriage license — is quintessential state action,” wrote White, who was appointed to the court by George W. Bush.


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Chad Readler, who was appointed to the court by Donald Trump, wrote a concurring opinion expressing that, while he believed the First Amendment might partially shield Davis, her conduct went above and beyond those protections.

"Rather than attempting to invoke a religious exemption for herself, Davis instead exercised the full authority of the Rowan County Clerk’s Office to enact an official policy of denying marriage licenses to same-sex couples, one every office employee had to follow. Under this unique set of facts, I agree that the First Amendment does not shield Davis from liability," wrote Readler.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 10:00 am
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3603 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:55 am to
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Just in time to frick up midterms.


Worth it, republicans are useless anyway so what’s the point of getting them elected so they can just do more crap that we didn’t vote for. Gay marriage is an abomination.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14564 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:56 am to
Good. I feel like I got snookered on that deal.
I had the naive "they just want to get married" belief


Little did I realize LGBTQ+ was going to be


So now you have to go back in the closet.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24868 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:56 am to
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life insurance payouts


I have never heard of this being a problem. Does the insurance company say that if they are not married, there is no insurable interest?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:59 am to
I think they’ll take it up. But even if they don’t take it up for this lady for a particular reason, they will eventually just like with Roe. It’s only a matter of time
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78351 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:59 am to
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These cases are all progeny of Griswold
He should have stuck strictly to food additive design.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:03 am to
How did the circuit rule on Roe vs Wade counselor?
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5522 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:08 am to
This would be fricking phenomenal.

Next, remove sexuality as a “protected class”
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112886 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:08 am to
Doubtful.

Gorsuch was Kennedy's law clerk and was hand-picked by him to replace him. I seriously doubt he will overturn the decision. Neither Barrett nor Kavanaugh are guarantees.

Would be at least 5-4 and would likely be 7-2 to affirm.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49294 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:09 am to
Leave that shite alone. All overturning that will accomplish is a bunch of pissed off people voting against republicans next year.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
Member since Nov 2012
2693 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:09 am to
I saw someone ask him to take off the beanie. He's got his reasons.

Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:10 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:10 am to
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How did the circuit rule on Roe vs Wade counselor?

Her appeal isn't even directly on gay marriage.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:10 am to
I disagree. Doing the right thing is doing the right thing and should be done. Not shy awayed from
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