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re: Study: Temp adjustments account for ‘Nearly all of Warming’ In climate data

Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:48 pm to
I'll never understand why some people so want it not to be real that they feel the need to lie about Climate Change.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12782 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:51 pm to
I'll never understand why some people so want it to be real that they feel the need to lie about Climate Change.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14125 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:46 pm to
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Those who refuse to subscribe to the above facts are not worth my attention.


And yet you took the time to give me your attention.

So tell me, what do you personally do to combat this climate change that I've been hearing about for 30 years?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77492 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 8:47 pm to
Welp, there's your hockey stick....
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34212 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:16 pm to
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So the study doesn't do any real hard work, like figuring if the bias adjustments are warranted or accurate

The depth of the idiocy in this thread is amazing

All the study did was to remove the adjustments. Track the raw numbers back to when they began, and guess what. THERE WAS NO WARMING TREND

You freaks bend over backwards to accept that adjustments are the reality. They are not. They are also the reason the hockey stick got laughed at. And the reason every climate model has been wrong. You simply cant feed manipulated data into a computer program, and expect valid results.

And this is the reason they give
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To calculate a trend over such a long period, it is necessary to merge the raw temperature data from different sites.

And this study proved that in almost every case where the data was merged, a higher temp was recorded. Every single time

Its bullshite. And you idiots fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Relying on you to doubt their manipulations of data, is like relying on CNN to do accurate reporting
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:17 pm to
By the way, Mr. OP, the subject line of your post is not true.

The Study itself never concluded that "Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data."

Coincidentally though, that was the exact wording of the title of a Daily Caller article "discussing" the Study.

You said you read the Study. If you did read it, and you think the subject line of the OP is what the study concluded, you either didn't comprehend what you read, or you just outright lied.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:18 pm to
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They have hi-jacked the scientific method and turned it into a faith-based dogma.

fricking progressives have zero shame.


Bunch of liberal arts wannabe engineering grads!
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:24 pm to
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Those who refuse to subscribe to the above facts are not worth my attention.


Those people ain't missing a thing, Jack.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6627 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:41 pm to
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Somewhere, SpideyTuba

I kinda miss his "the world will end next week in a fire ball" threads
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:44 pm to
You're confused.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
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Because the earth system feedbacks operate on long time scales. If we went to zero emissions tomorrow, for instance, the Earth's warming wouldn't tail off for several decades because it takes a while for the carbon cycle to reach a new equilibrium. Other feedbacks like sea level rise are even longer, on the scale of centuries. It's neither economically nor physically feasible to wait until the effects reach "doom and gloom" level and then suddenly flip a switch, stop emitting carbon, and everything goes back to normal.


Does this work in both directions? In other words, is the "global warming" or "climate change" we are supposed to be experiencing today due to events in decades and centuries past?
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14125 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
I'm still waiting for the Acid rain from the 80's that was going to devestate us.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34212 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 9:58 pm to
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You said you read the Study. If you did read it, and you think the subject line of the OP is what the study concluded, you either didn't comprehend what you read, or you just outright lied.

Wanna know, how I know, you didn't read the study?
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VII. SUMMARY & CONCLUSIONS

In this research report, the most important surface data adjustment issues are identified and past changes in the previously reported historical GAST data are quantified. While the notion that some “adjustments” to historical data might need to be made is not challenged, logically it would be expected that such historical temperature data adjustments would sometimes raise these temperatures, and sometimes lower them. This situation would mean that the impact of such adjustments on the temperature trend line slope is uncertain. However, each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history.

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming.

You are reaching a staggering level of stupidity, because the study says exactly that each new data set increases the level of warming, than was previously reported
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21110 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:10 pm to
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Iosh


C'mon maaaaan...the GW gig is up already!
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:11 pm to
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You are reaching a staggering level of stupidity, because the study says exactly that each new data set increases the level of warming, than was previously reported
*grabs ur nose and rubs it in the ICOADS vs ERSST graph from page 1*
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:20 pm to
Kemper has been a disaster and word is they are now turning it into a nat gas plant, but NRG recently pulled one off in TX. Of course, the sequestered carbon is being used for EOR, so the greenies will still be pissed regardless.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:25 pm to
That sounds neat but kind of implausible that it would use up 100% of that CO2. (Disclaimer: I have no idea what quantities of CO2 are used in EOR, but I do know a coal plant emits literal millions of tons per year.)
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95589 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:32 pm to
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I have no idea what quantities of CO2 are used in EOR


Best estimates are that 0.3 to 0.7 tons of emissions are avoided (net reduction) per barrel of oil in CO2->EOR.

So, that's pretty good, I think. The sequestration occurs because they have to prime the oil pocket for about a year. Has to be cleaner than fracking.
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:35 pm to
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You are reaching a staggering level of stupidity, because the study says exactly that each new data set increases the level of warming, than was previously reported


Are you dense. What I said in my post was that the subject line of your post was a lie. It said:

Temp adjustments account for ‘Nearly all of Warming’ In climate data.

Show me where the Study concluded that. If not GTFO. (and don't quote the B.S. Daily Caller article where that quote came from).
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19971 posts
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:40 pm to
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It's Celsius (and clearly labeled as such), but 0.7°C probably doesn't still sound like much.
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it's more like 1.1°C
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2°C warming is probably locked by now.
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you're looking at a difference of 4°C.

I think I've found the source of the temp adjustments.
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we're halfway to that magnitude of change already

If this post had gone on another paragraph, we'd have made it all the way.
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