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Study: Ivermectin doesn't work.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:35 am
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:35 am
5% less effective against severe disease than standard of care.
Standard of care is nothing.
I see they only used ivermectin. No zinc, d3, pepcid, or anything else, just ivermectin alone.
JAMA
Standard of care is nothing.
I see they only used ivermectin. No zinc, d3, pepcid, or anything else, just ivermectin alone.
JAMA
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 2:36 am
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:47 am to smh4wg
A 480 person study in Malaysia. With millions of Covid cases across the planet...this is what they go with.
The MSM is already aaallllll over this also.
What a joke.
The MSM is already aaallllll over this also.
What a joke.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 2:48 am
Posted on 2/19/22 at 4:40 am to smh4wg
If you look at the reported numbers in the study, the Ivermectin group was far less likely to be intubated, end up in the ICU, and die. The conclusion and headlines don't match the data
Posted on 2/19/22 at 4:51 am to joshnorris14
A few thoughts:
1. This is a study on high risk patients. Most people aren’t high risk. Obviously being more susceptible to Covid could impact how you should be treated. Where’s the study on the general population?
2. They didn’t test it as a prophylaxis. That’s one of the biggest questions.
3. Someone who knows more about stats will have to answer this. But how the heck is this:
Not statistically significant?
1. This is a study on high risk patients. Most people aren’t high risk. Obviously being more susceptible to Covid could impact how you should be treated. Where’s the study on the general population?
2. They didn’t test it as a prophylaxis. That’s one of the biggest questions.
3. Someone who knows more about stats will have to answer this. But how the heck is this:
quote:
28-day in-hospital death in 3 (1.2%) vs 10 (4.0%) (RR, 0.31; 95% CI, 0.09-1.11; P?=?.09). The
Not statistically significant?
Posted on 2/19/22 at 4:56 am to smh4wg
But if it saves one life........
Isn't that the vax logic?
Isn't that the vax logic?
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:27 am to joshnorris14
The dosage should be .04-.06 mg/kg once a day for 5 days. They chose .04mg… They should do it again at at least .06mg/kg if not more.
It says they administered 4 times a day but was the .04 the total of tge 4 doses per day?
As previous poster stated.. very sloppy study. and oversimplified conclusions
It says they administered 4 times a day but was the .04 the total of tge 4 doses per day?
As previous poster stated.. very sloppy study. and oversimplified conclusions
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 7:32 am
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:30 am to smh4wg
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Study: Vaccine doesn't work.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:33 am to DMAN1968
quote:If the results were positive, you'd be all over this study.
A 480 person study in Malaysia. With millions of Covid cases across the planet...this is what they go with
Now, this isn't the end of the ivermectin debate though.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 7:39 am
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:40 am to DMAN1968
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A 480 person study in Malaysia. With millions of Covid cases across the planet...this is what they go with.
The primary endpoint is a weird one for me. Progression to oxygen usage isn’t important to me, especially to get patient to 95%.
The primary endpoints should have been 1) mortality and 2) ICU admission. But there weren’t enough people in the study to get that sort of power.
It does seem clear that ivermectin isn’t a panacea. But it’s roughly as effective as the vaccine in preventing progression to severe disease for breakthrough cases.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:42 am to smh4wg
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I see they only used ivermectin. No zinc, d3, pepcid, or anything else, just ivermectin alone.
Then it’s a useless study
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:43 am to the808bass
Got me basically symptom free after 3rd dose.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:45 am to smh4wg
Ivermectin works when used at onset of symptoms (early treatment) to reduce hospitalization and death.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:47 am to smh4wg
So its like the vaccine then
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:50 am to Jake88
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If the results were positive, you'd be all over this study.
bullshite...It's a shitty study no matter how you look at it.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:52 am to smh4wg
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smh4wg
Honk honk
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:56 am to smh4wg
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Study: Ivermectin doesn't work.
5% less effective against severe disease than standard of care.
Still no reason not to give it to someone. So, it doesn't work, look at all the things they tried that didnt work on patients that die from Covid.
The resistance to Ivermectin is all I need to know to believe it works.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:56 am to CatholicLSUDude
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This is a study on high risk patients. Most people aren’t high risk.
High risk patients are who dies of covid. Almost no one, who is not high risk, dies of covid. I’Ve been telling all the ivermectin yo-yos this for a year: All these low risk people who took ivermectin, and lived, describe their experience, and it sounds just like mine, and everyone else who didn’t take anything.
The data is overwhelming that if you have no natural immunity, and you want to medicate to avoid covid’s worst outcomes, you should get vaccinated. Your chances would improve by about 6300%, and the side effects are either very mild or extraordinarily rare.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 7:58 am to Penrod
Bahaaaa. Stating opinions as fact
Posted on 2/19/22 at 8:03 am to joshnorris14
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If you look at the reported numbers in the study, the Ivermectin group was far less likely to be intubated, end up in the ICU, and die. The conclusion and headlines don't match the data
So basically the same result as the vaccine. Except one drug is extremely safe and has been used for years with little to no side effects. The other one sometimes causes heart and clotting issues.
I know which one I would pick.
Posted on 2/19/22 at 8:06 am to smh4wg
The good news is since it doesn’t work and is a harmless drug maybe it could be made easier to prescribe.
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