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re: Study: Ivermectin doesn't work.

Posted on 2/19/22 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by Menji
Las Vegas
Member since Jan 2009
668 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 8:32 pm to
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5% less effective against severe disease than standard of care.


It's also not effective when used on dead people.

Almost like using it by itself when they're about to die anyway isn't the claim being made by its proponents, and you're attacking a straw man for corporate press narrative purposes.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22516 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 9:49 pm to
it is fake
Posted by Alex777
Member since Jan 2022
385 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 9:56 pm to
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If the results were positive, you'd be all over this study.



Read the study moron, the Ivermecting group had a reduced mortality rate. The media just took an extrapolation of a conclussion that has nothing to do with if Ivermecting reduces deaths or not.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21879 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:01 pm to
Study: COVID isn't real
Posted by doc baklava
Between heaven and hell
Member since Oct 2020
820 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:03 pm to
You are drawing the wrong conclusions.

It didn't say it doesn't work, it said it doesn't prevent the progression into serious disease.

It doesn't answer the question whether it shortens the course or reduces symptom severity in mild to moderate disease.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
3634 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:04 pm to
It’s what they want u too believe.
Posted by doc baklava
Between heaven and hell
Member since Oct 2020
820 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:07 pm to
It's not, it showed reduced mortality.

And it wasn't even blinded.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:07 pm to
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I see they only used ivermectin. No zinc, d3, pepcid, or anything else, just ivermectin alone.


No one has claimed that Ivermectin works by itself. All reports claimed Ivermectin With Zinc works. IF they did not use zinc with IVermectin, then the study is worthless.

Why can't these people conduct a proper Ivermectin study?
A 5th grade science class could do it correctly with minimal supervision.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13020 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:42 pm to
JAMA

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22797 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:46 pm to
Now has anyone's eyes been opened. They want you dead.

Just because they are making a ton of money on your death doesn't mean the primary purpose is the money.

Nope??? Nobody???
Figures hard to open the eyes of illogical people.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23802 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:19 pm to
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Member since Oct 2012
93794 posts

Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:23 pm to NC_Tigah
She’s going to make you feel stupid for even arguing with her


Why waste time? She's nobody. We know a fair study has not been conducted and we know why. Money. People like her belong in prison for murder.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:39 pm to
Deaths and ventilation were reduced by over 2.5x, I would say that is pretty promising
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40205 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:02 am to
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Your chances would improve by about 6300% Link?

CDC published study shows 5300%, so mine could have been slightly high
quote:

During October–November, unvaccinated persons had 13.9 and 53.2 times the risks for infection and COVID-19–associated death, respectively, compared with fully vaccinated persons who received booster doses
So 53.2 times the risk of death - that’s 5320% more likely to die. That number moves around from month to month and variant to variant, so my 6300% doesn’t quite match that study because it was older data that I remembered.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46626 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:06 am to
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Link?


The three largest such studies on the matter found a 52x, 46x and 43x increased risk of mortality in the unvaccinated vs vaccinated.

So while his number is high, it’s not terribly far off.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:06 am to
Lol. You’re a high functioning moron.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46626 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:08 am to
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Deaths and ventilation were reduced by over 2.5x, I would say that is pretty promising


But the number isn’t statistically significant based on their data set. That means that result is likely driven by chance alone.

It’s the whole point of running statistical analysis of study data sets.
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 9:09 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:09 am to
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it said it doesn't prevent the progression into serious disease.


Meanwhile, the study’s definition of “serious disease” wouldn’t get you checked into the hospital.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:10 am to
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That means that result is likely driven by chance alone.


No, that’s not what it means. It means it could be driven by chance.
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
33445 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:18 am to
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Got me basically symptom free after 3rd dose.


Waiting a few days and doing nothing has the same effect.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:36 am to
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FlexDawg


There's a reason that "meta-analysis" is on some guy's blog and isn't published in a peer-reviewed journal.

Almost all of the included studies have issues. E.g. the n's are very low, the drug is studied in combination with others that we know would improve outcomes, they don't track adherence, etc etc etc.

This isn't proof of anything except whoever put this together did a poor job.
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