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re: Study Confirms Vaccine-Linked Myocarditis Deaths for First Time

Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Hum, that's why I don't try the "brand new - never done before" stuff.


I have friends that "disowned" me for not being vaccinated. The types that got it the moment they were eligible. I told them "When have yall known me to be a first adopter of anything, so why would I do this now?" Of course that didn't matter, and was a pariah. oh well...f'em.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62407 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:37 pm to
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Pointing out that a certain subgroup of the population has an increased risk of a side effect isn't the moment of truth you think.


You're such a loon. The problem has ALWAYS been about young people.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125226 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:38 pm to
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For males under 40, the risk of myocarditis after a second dose of the Moderna vaccine was almost four times higher than the risk of myocarditis after a SARS-CoV2 infection, the data showed.


It seems like a super smart idea to require young men to get the vaccine.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125226 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Pointing out that a certain subgroup of the population has an increased risk of a side effect isn't the moment of truth you think.


The frick it isn’t, lying piece of shite.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2646 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:51 pm to
"Conspiracy Theorist"
"Uneducated Red States"
"Hick MAGA"
"Science"
"Should be Prosecuted"

All of the bullshite, fake news, and crap politicians forcing a population to take drugs...but now it's too late...and nobody will go to jail.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20190 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Don’t be an early adopter.

Unless you have no other options (advanced disease, terminal cancer, etc) I can’t stress this enough.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2646 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:56 pm to
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with up to an additional 2 events per million people in the 28-day period after exposure to all vaccine doses other than mRNA-1273


Why is this excluded?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51937 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:19 pm to
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Most honest, good people had noble reasons for taking it. And a few paid their lives for it.
And far more had their lives saved because of it, as every study shows, including the one in the OP.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125226 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:21 pm to
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And far more had their lives saved because of it


How many people needed to get vaccinated to save one life? If you said 83,000, you’re close to correct.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41916 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:26 pm to
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And far more had their lives saved because of it, as every study shows, including the one in the OP.


You are such a shot nazi...and - wrong concerning those under 40. Your deflection is also moot.

You are aligning with the dumbest bitch on this site.

This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 6:28 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175679 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:29 pm to
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But mouton said it was covid that did this


Same thing they're trying to do with the giant snake like blood clots. "We don't know if it's from Covid or the vaccine!!!!"

Sure
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23043 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:30 pm to
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And far more had their lives saved because of it, as every study shows, including the one in the OP.


How many lives did it save in the healthy people under 40 demographic bc that’s what we are taking about here?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43863 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:39 pm to
Did you read the actual study or just the article from epoch times?

Here is a part of the discussion section from the actual study.

quote:

In a population of >42 million vaccinated individuals, we report several new findings that could influence public health policy on COVID-19 vaccination. First, the risk of myocarditis is substantially higher after SARS-CoV-2 infection in unvaccinated individuals than the increase in risk observed after a first dose of ChAdOx1nCoV-19 vaccine, and a first, second, or booster dose of BNT162b2 vaccine. Second, although the risk of myocarditis with SARS-CoV-2 infection remains after vaccination, it was substantially reduced, suggesting vaccination provides some protection from the cardiovascular consequences of SARS-CoV-2. Third, in contrast with other vaccines, the risk of myocarditis observed 1 to 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273 vaccine was higher and similar to the risk after infection. Last, vaccine-associated myocarditis was largely restricted to men younger than 40 years with 1 exception; both younger men and women were at increased risk of myocarditis after a second dose of mRNA-1273.

Vaccination against COVID-19 has both major public health and economic benefits. Although the net benefit of vaccination for the individual or on a population level should not be framed exclusively around the risks of myocarditis, quantifying this risk is important, particularly in young people who are less likely to have a severe illness with SARS-CoV-2 infection. Multiple studies have identified an increase in myocarditis after exposure to the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine.1–8,13 Some of our findings are confirmatory, but we also demonstrate that the risk of myocarditis is not restricted to this vaccine but is observed after vaccination with adenovirus and other mRNA vaccines and after a booster dose.

It is important to place our findings into context. One of the strengths of our analysis is that we quantify the risk of myocarditis associated with both vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 infection in the same population. Myocarditis is an uncommon condition. The risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis is small, with up to an additional 2 events per million people in the 28-day period after exposure to all vaccine doses other than mRNA-1273. This is substantially lower than the 35 additional myocarditis events observed with SARS-CoV-2 infection before vaccination. Furthermore, vaccination reduced the risk of infection associated myocarditis by approximately half, suggesting that the prevention of infection associated myocarditis may be an additional longer-term benefit of vaccination.
LINK

I suggest reading the actual study before posting.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85642 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Unless you have no other options (advanced disease, terminal cancer, etc) I can’t stress this enough.


Which isn’t covid. So…
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85642 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:54 pm to
Did you read what you posted.

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Last, vaccine-associated myocarditis was largely restricted to men younger than 40 years with 1 exception; both younger men and women were at increased risk of myocarditis after a second dose of mRNA-1273.


I’m under 40 you piece of shite.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21954 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:59 pm to
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For males under 40, the risk of myocarditis after a second dose of the Moderna vaccine was almost four times higher than the risk of myocarditis after a SARS-CoV2 infection, the data showed.


Young in shape male athletes die All the time…..like 4 times all the time.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43863 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:05 pm to
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I’m under 40 you piece of shite.


Then don't get the vaccine. Nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to get the vaccine.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10334 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:15 pm to
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mean, she literally just shite-canned her own post IN THAT SAME POST.

While chastising people for not reading the study
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 7:16 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125226 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:24 pm to
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Nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to get the vaccine.


Let’s play a game called “Selective Memories.” Oh wait. You’ve already started.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5575 posts
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:27 pm to
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Nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to get the vaccine.


If you work in a healthcare setting, you are absolutely forced to get the one size fits all Covid vax or risk losing your job. Tell me you knew that, right?
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