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re: Study: All Humanity Comes From One Couple.................... You don't say

Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:16 am to
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I need proof to dismiss the Noah's Ark story as fantasy?


Until this study, it was fantasy that we came from one couple.

So I ask again... Are you saying this VERY MASSIVE Study is lying, wrong?
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8167 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:18 am to
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quote:
Can you prove he did not?



Don't have to ? it's laughable



Substitute sarcasm in place of a valid argument because you can't have it both ways.... typical DemoRat play.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:18 am to
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The Scientists stated the study proves we came from one couple. Period. Nothing more.. nothing less. The Scientists stated that 90% of all animals each come from one couple each. Nothing more, Nothing less.


Posted by Logician
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:18 am to
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Don't have to
liberal scientist
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:19 am to
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The Scientists stated that 90% of all animals each come from one couple each. Nothing more, Nothing less.

PERIOD.


Wrong.

Mitochondrial DNA is only passed on through female lines. The authors even say their observations could also be indicative of a small "founding population of thousands that was stable for tens of thousands of years”

Sorry. More fake news from you.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 8:23 am
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:22 am to
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Mitochondrial DNA studies aren't new and are great evidence for the theory of evolution


Oh come on. I'm not going to quote Genesis at you, or any of the other creation myths.

But if you follow this sort of thing, you ought to know darn well there are a whole lot of arguments that haven't been settled with the Theory of Evolution.

Some we just don't know about, like how likely is it for a self-assembling molecule to arise. As I said this is not settled. Some pretty heavy hitters have estimated this as anywhere from likely to it probably won't happen in the whole history of the universe.

Then we have the other arguments, which you should be well acquainted with. None of them settled.

We know we can selectively breed animals like dogs (and yeah, we could do it with people - if we knew what we wanted).

But Darwinism as pitched by the man himself? A whole lot remains to be puzzled out about that.
Posted by Shawn Spencer
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:24 am to
You linked the Mirror citing a Daily Mail report. This is worse than if Bleacher Report citing ATPB as a factual article lol.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:24 am to
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Wrong.

Mitochondrial DNA is only passed on through female lines.




No, I'm not wrong. The study stated that 90% came from one couple. The Mitochondrial DNA isn't at issue here. We know it's passed on via the Female.


Why are you trying to shift the subject to something not being talked about nor refuted?


I will ask once again... Are you saying the study is false? That it is wrong? That they are lying?

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:24 am to
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Are you saying this VERY MASSIVE Study is lying, wrong?


Massive study? It was a survey of a genetic database
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31591 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:26 am to
Because I’m certain that everyone will want to educate themselves before spending the next few days arguing, here is a link to the study:

LINK

If for some reason that doesn’t work, use this and then click the open source button at the bottom:

LINK
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:26 am to
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You linked the Mirror citing a Daily Mail report. This is worse than if Bleacher Report citing ATPB as a factual article lol.




I love the "attack the source" argument when a person can not refute the study. The study is linked. I also linked to NY Post.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:28 am to
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The study stated that 90% came from one couple. The Mitochondrial DNA isn't at issue here. We know it's passed on via the Female.


It is simply impossible to know that it was one couple when you can only see the female line

I'm saying that you and the author are misrepresenting the researchers work.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by Shawn Spencer
The Spirit World
Member since Nov 2011
1225 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:29 am to
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I also linked to NY Post.


So you linked 3 tabloids? Congrats, it must be true then.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100461 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:29 am to
Noah’s flood?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:29 am to
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Massive study? It was a survey of a genetic database



The researchers studied the DNA of five million animals, including humans, to come to their conclusions.

So you can't refute the data. So now attack the study?

Interesting.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14112 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:30 am to
Science we can believe in. I think its called "Faith".
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:31 am to
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Now they sound like real scientist!



I think that sentence was from the professional journalist writing the article not the researchers.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:33 am to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Oh come on. I'm not going to quote Genesis at you, or any of the other creation myths.

But if you follow this sort of thing, you ought to know darn well there are a whole lot of arguments that haven't been settled with the Theory of Evolution.

Some we just don't know about, like how likely is it for a self-assembling molecule to arise. As I said this is not settled. Some pretty heavy hitters have estimated this as anywhere from likely to it probably won't happen in the whole history of the universe.

Then we have the other arguments, which you should be well acquainted with. None of them settled.

We know we can selectively breed animals like dogs (and yeah, we could do it with people - if we knew what we wanted).

But Darwinism as pitched by the man himself? A whole lot remains to be puzzled out about that


And pretty much all of the unsettled debates have to do with the mechanisms of gene transfer or other mechanisms of evolution.

No one is debating evolution by natural selection/relative fitness.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:40 am to
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The researchers studied the DNA of five million animals, including humans, to come to their conclusions.

So you can't refute the data. So now attack the study?

Interesting


I'm attacking your misrepresentation of the study.. E.g. you calling it "massive"

But keep on swinging the fake news bat it's kind of what you are known for
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 8:41 am
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