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re: Strip away whataboutism, election fraud, and specific GOPE policies, what does MAGA offer?

Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:52 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477229 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:52 am to
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You tell me which you think is more important.

Principles are always more important than blindly following trends.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:53 am to
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Trade reciprocity to grow a manufacturing based and have less of a service based economy.


Lol

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Less wars.



Lol

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Secure borders thus putting upward wage pressure on working class.



Lol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477229 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:53 am to
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List all the conservative measures they put before him that he rejected.

nobody is arguing that Trump wasn't a YUGE fan of GOPE policies
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110967 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:54 am to
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GOPE


You are no longer rejecting this as a notion?
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
3991 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:55 am to
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I will not waste my time on SFP as he is the poster child for unreasonable.
This is not surprising. He’s slow.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:56 am to
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Youre very confused. Trump is far closer to FDR than a Republican


FDR started Free Trade sir.


FDR removed the USA from the Gold standard. He did so by presidential proclamation and the dollar tanked immediately.

Reciprocal Trade Agreement Act gave FDR the ability to set a nations as most-favored.

FDR shifted the tax burden to the people. It was under FDR that Income taxes for the first time exceeded excise taxes and it literally hurt the poorer Americans.

FDR decided to go around congress and passed things by "Presidential decree" and was able to pass the RTAA... and that gave HIM, no longer congress, the power to end tariffs and push globalism and "Free Trade"

FDR and his guy, Cordell Hull literally moved the USA into globalism with the burden of funding to the people via income taxes and more. And they did so under lie that it would end wars by distributing wealth around the world. He also made a case that businesses would control the Gov by saying "Don't shoot my costumers"


You are ignorant.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:57 am to
This whole thread is arse. Mental masturbation and nothing more.

We could elect a jar of mayonnaise and be better off than with any "politician" in this race. That's where we are as a society... A crossroads where we could hasten the collapse or begin the work of teardown and rebuild.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:58 am to
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Education is ignorance


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Yes.





We all knew you loved the systemic racism lie.

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You are proposing government intervention in markets to redistribute from certain private individuals to others.

Literally Socialism.


So you believe the USA was socialist until FDR.

Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11959 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:58 am to
State of politics in 2023. Pointing the gun at the wrong target while ignoring the perps in Congress who the voters can vote in/out every 2 years

Blumpf this Biden that JFC

SFP I'll give you credit you can really get the blood pumping on this board
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:59 am to
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I gave you the answer to why his voters are so loyal. RobbBobb just gave you a solid substantive mini-list. You tell me which you think is more important. And you have your answer.


He isn't here for that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477229 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:01 am to
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You are no longer rejecting this as a notion?

Like with media/phrasing, I am using their own words/concepts.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:01 am to
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Principles are always more important than blindly following trends.




That's a bs statement.


If you principle is to never fight back, you will be taken over. Sticking to your principles cost you everything.


Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5967 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:02 am to
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The USA Federal gov was funded by Tariffs until FDR.


Who funded the tariffs? Is a "tariff" a magic money shitting unicorn, or does the money still come from somewhere?




So who funds the magic money shatting unicorn? JJdoc, Gumbopot anyone have an idea?
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:02 am to
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You are no longer rejecting this as a notion?






That's not what he is doing. He's trying to say that you actually LOVE GOPE policies and just need to be reminded.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477229 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:03 am to
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That's a bs statement.

Why, exactly?

You believe in being a sheep instead of an individual?



Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110967 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:05 am to
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Like with media/phrasing, I am using their own words/concepts.


What does that have to do with the question I posed, though?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:05 am to
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That's a bs statement.


Its not, actually.

What can government do to make your life better?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477229 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:05 am to
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He's trying to say that you actually LOVE GOPE policies and just need to be reminded


You don't like the tax cuts?

You don't like the judicial nominations?

Why not?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:05 am to
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quote:
That's a bs statement.


Why, exactly?


I gave you the why.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:05 am to
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RobbBobb just gave you a solid substantive mini-list.


It was mostly propagandist bullshite, though.

I mean, what kind of low information dipshit needed Trump to "expose" any of that?
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