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re: Steve Scalise Frustrates Chris Wallace- Election Stolen

Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:49 pm to
CW is a big liberal festering pussy.

:edit the word festering in to post:
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 9:50 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24920 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 10:02 pm to
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SCALISE: What I said is there are states that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. That's what the United States ???? Constitution says. And I think there are a lot of people that want us to get back to what the Constitution says we should be doing. Not just with elections, but a lot of other things, too.


He’s 100% correct, and Chris can’t challenge or deny that fact.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 10:02 pm to
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What other allegations of malpractice have been leveled at the ninjas? Be it intentional or accidental.


Ive seen some criticism of their recommendations especially in cyber security area.

In general though they displayed a lack of understanding or knowledge of what they were looking at. You can see that mentioned by themselves in caveats all over the report. They found this and think it might mean something but they'd need to know the process or understand more about how the system works and tracks data.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2297 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 10:14 pm to
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Everyone has standing in a federal election.


We don't have federal elections in this country. Everyone is all about the Constitution and individual states governing themselves until they don't like the outcome.

By not intervening in the election process and then certifying their Electors, State legislatures tacitly approved of the elections even if they violated State law. If you don't live in that state you have no standing to complain.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 10:19 pm to
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Everyone is all about the Constitution and individual states governing themselves until they don't like the outcome.

Shhyeah. Check out the Democrats, hell their guy ended up in the White House and they STILL wanna nullify the Constitutional mandate about state legislatures....by ramming federalized voting laws down our throats.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5569 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:30 pm to
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He wins elections by telling you morons guns good/abortions bad.
what is your view? you inbred imbecile?

what do you know about guns? good or bad

what is your take on abortion? ever had one?
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:44 pm to
You are missing my point moron. All Scalise has to do is stop in LA a few times a year wearing LSU crap and say guns are good an abortion is bad and he knows he'll be re elected. Other than that he does nothing. What did they get done when Trump was in office? Damn, there are some real morons on here.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50429 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:15 am to
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So Scalise wusses out on his response? Shocking. Scalise is a swamp rat


He laid out exactly how the election was stolen.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35632 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:21 am to
what he should've said:



quote:

i don't know if the election was stolen or not. what i do know is that each state has their own set of rules/laws on how elections are ran, and some didn't follow their own rules/laws. that is what we know.
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
33189 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:23 am to
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So I am right and you just don't like it?


No, an asshat.

And an illiterate one, apparently.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42587 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 3:50 am to
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Then why not say "It was stolen and we will not stand for it". Surely his base would support that. So why not say it?

What is wrong with saying "It was illegitimate and we will not stand for it." = That is the more general statement that perfectly defines the situation and the problem.

There is no requirement to list each and every possible combination of events that could make up the universe of "illegitimacy."

That's just another dodge to make force someone into a false narrative.

let's examine an analogy:
e.g.
Suppose a police officer finds a totally nude couple having sex on the median of an interstate freeway during rush hour traffic.

What if the officer takes photographs and video of the incident and brings the participants into a courtroom, charged with indecent exposure.

And the judge asks only one question = "Where is the complaint from the citizen who witnessed the event?"

And if not = Case Dismissed.

Furthermore, the couple has obtained an injunction to forbid you from slandering their reputation. You may not institute an investigation to find a witness, since you have no standing to do so.

And you may be liable for civil or criminal penalties, if the couple chooses to file a complaint or initiate a lawsuit. And, since one of the participants is a person of color, the DOJ is initiating an investigation to determine if there was a civil rights violation.

moral - you should have just not noticed.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42587 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:09 am to
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Was it stolen or not? Answer the damn question.


Why does it have to be pigeon-holed into the notion of "stolen" ??

It was clearly illegitimate because the protocol for conducting the elections were violated.

Why is not the question to all who demand "proof of fraud" = "Was the election legitimate?"

Why not walk into a courtroom and demand of a judge = Tell me right now - "Am I guilty or not guilty of murdering my wife?"

the Judge asks - Have you been charged with that offense? We have protocols for the legitimacy of actions taken by government officials - if you don't follow the procedures, we cannot act.

The protocols for the election were not followed = ergo, certification of the election 'results' cannot be determined. Get your act together with proper predicates and we will consider the matter.

Stolen?? - or undertermined?? In either event, the election is illegitimate.

THAT is the entire point.

btw - the election was stolen - by a deliberate act of a conspiracy to defraud. - But that doesn't have to be 'proven' within the timeframe of the events = all you SHOULD have to do is declare the election to be illegitimate - and make plans to rectify that immediately.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:27 am to
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Show me one video where Scalise has the balls to say the election was stolen?
The election was illegally wrought. PERIOD!
That is Scalise's point.

When dealing with contrarian absurdity as Scalise is in this case, deal first in indisputable fact, and force the contrarian to speculate instead. That is what Scalise is doing.

To know with absolute 100% certainty the election was "stolen", we'd need to see a side by side comparison with a legally run version, or at least be allowed full investigative access to acquire proof. We as of now, have neither. So an illegitimate partisan tool like Wallace can continue to yammer that no one can PROVE the election was stolen.

Instead, Scalise deftly refused to allow Wallace to go there. Scalise forced upon him the indisputable fact that the 2020 election was corrupted.

FACT: We have rules in place governing elections.
FACT: Those rules are in place to prevent elections from being stolen.
FACT: Election rules were not followed in the 2020 race.
FACT: In the aftermath, establishment machines are doing everything they can to subvert investigations into the corrupted election.

None of which should ever happen.
The fact Chris Wallace dismisses electoral corruption would be enough to get him summarily fired from a legitimate news network.

e.g.,
Would LSU have beaten Auburn in 2006 if the refs had called a legitimate game? If we had beaten Auburn, would LSU have won the 206 MNT?
Probably, yes to both.
Were we robbed? Very likely!
In the face of obviously poor officiating, did the SEC's denial of any wrong calls and refusal to investigate add to the problem. Absolutely!

But you can't know the alternative outcome with 100% certainty unless the Auburn game was replayed with legitimate officiating. You cannot know with absolute certainty that LSU would have made the National Championship game and beaten the 2006 OSU team. What you can say for certain is officiating for the 2006 LSU-AU game was corrupted. What you can say for certain is corrupt officiating should never occur in sport.

This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:47 am to
Case in point, Clark County, Nevada failed to follow the rules and procedures set forth by the Nevada legislature when it came to conducting their state's presidential election. If you win Clark County (where Las Vegas is), you win the state.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10398 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:03 am to
Folks,

There has not been a single court case won on any of this election fraud stuff. As a matter of fact, they usually get thrown out of court. The company that has been implicated has sued those that push the narrative that they were complicit in the fraud and most ran for cover.

Giuliani became a sweating mess when he had to present evidence. The kraken hasn’t been head from in a long time

There might have been small pockets of fraudulent behavior but not enough to sway this election

Most reasonable people can see this
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:05 am to
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In general though they displayed a lack of understanding or knowledge of what they were looking at.
bullshite!
Complete bullshite!

To the contrary, they displayed a thorough understanding of audited materials. That understanding enabled specific delineation of information they were missing due to a lack of Maricopa cooperation.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:14 am to
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There might have been small pockets of fraudulent behavior but not enough to sway this election


Some states absolutely violated their own voting laws. There's no debating that. I still don't understand why DJT/gulliani/etc didn't absolutely hammer that into the ground.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:31 am to
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There might have been small pockets of fraudulent behavior but not enough to sway this election
Oh really?
Then prove it!

2020 was a vastly corrupted election (indisputable). States ignored their election laws and wrought results independent of legality (indisputable). Election laws (which were broken in this instance) are the barrier to election theft. Law breaking on the part of government officials is usually done to serve a purpose. So your claim that there was not widespread fraud under those circumstances is nonsensical, unless you can prove it.

e.g., What happened to the thousands and thousands of DVS machine test ballots run in Fulton Co which were stored rather than spoiled? How do you specifically account for near simultaneous vote count stoppages in and only in 5 swing states, followed by immediate and inexplicable vote surges for Biden in each case? How do you account for more supposed votes* cast in 2020 than there were registered voters in 2018?

When you have answers for those things and many others, you can more intelligently draw conclusions. Until you do, you come across as a speculating imbecile.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 6:37 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:44 am to
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There has not been a single court case won on any of this election fraud stuff.


And few if any were over the merits of the case but due to lack of standing. No judge will hear the evidence because no judge wants to be the one who rocks the boat and ignites the firestorm.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:08 am to
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What did they get done when Trump was in office?
Scalise got shot.
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