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re: Stephen Hawking Dead - Hawking Radiation Proves Existence of God

Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:02 am to
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the point made was how that is expressed. It's simply noted that the mode of communication is always dripping with anger and condescension


like this?

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Atheist liberal. Can't say I give a shite
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:03 am to
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Why are atheists so angry all the time?? They always come off as bitter and disappointed about something, and it's "something" at their core. Then, when pointed out, they run to denial of it's existence.
Why is that?


In a memorial thread, Christians feel the need to discount one of the world’s great minds by stating that he is in hell now, and the atheists are the ones with the problem?
Posted by MastrShake
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:04 am to
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Jesus was the only one who said:
you do realize he never actually said that, right? it shouldn't be in quotes, its not a quote, its something someone made up, dozens or even hundreds of years after the fact, and then changed and edited hundreds of times before you ever read it.

you could write the entire passage backwards and the odds would be just as good that jesus had said that.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:09 am to
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I'm a 43 year old married guy with a son who goes to Catholic school under the church where our ceremony took place.

Not a single one of our family friends would even guess I didn't believe, nor would they hold my character under question at all. I give to my family and community more than anyone I know...I'm pretty sure you have no idea who I am or what I'm proud of.



While true that I have no idea who you are, the subtext within your comments here exude a pride in your non belief. But, if you really want to believe, quit looking for proof...or logical plausibility. That's not where belief is found. I'd be willing to bet that when you say you wish you believed, what you really mean is that you wish you had proof.

Based on your description of yourself, you have had everything you need to believe for a real long time. Yet, you view yourself as a victim of not being able to believe. Why do you think that is?
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:10 am to
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And Muhammad I think made a more convincing argument


Where exactly is this? I provided verse and scripture for my belief.


buckeye won't like that, I'm pretty sure he'll ask for some facts
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:12 am to
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Why are atheists so angry all the time?? They always come off as bitter and disappointed about something, and it's "something" at their core.


We were responding in large part to this post, made in a thread about a man who made a huge impact to science dying after struggling nearly his entire adult life with ALS.

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It's sad to think after all that he accomplished on earth that he neglected the one thing that matters: trust in Jesus Christ's atoning work on the cross. Unless he had a deathbed conversion (doubtful), he's begun his eternity of punishment for his rebellion against almighty God.


And atheists get called angry for responding... this is why people now point and laugh at you guys when you claim oppression.

Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:12 am to
The purpose of the eyewitness accounts are to get the facts of their personal relationships with someone consistent. Their spiritual “purpose” has no bearing on me. I use their accounts as a true north of accuracy about the historic values of the stories.
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:13 am to
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MastrShake




Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:13 am to
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Oh geez, you found the close minded person of no worth. You get judgmental merit badge and the one that outs those who are unobservant.



Damn. You went from mocking people for believing:

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Must be nice to have it all wrapped up in a perfect package. I envy the God gene people.


To feigning victim status for being judged yourself in one thread. Well done.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:16 am to
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Before we unpack each of those, which are firsthand accounts?


Logical fallacy: strawman. We are talking about whether early Christians believed in the Divinity of Christ, or whether that doctrine was invented hundreds of years after the fact as stated by the OP.

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:17 am to
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Then, it's just a natural step to wonder why something that is not believed in can rile up such anger.


Because our lives are effected daily by a belief which we find to be mythology. We can either nod along and allow that to stand, or we can stand up and argue against it. Frankly, I'm kind of tired of having to fend off this kind of belief system, and you would be too.

and again, you understand this to be the case with even the slightest bit of creative thinking. the issue is that you are so blinded to what you consider to be the absolutely truth in your own belief that it's simply impossible for you to accept that, for others, it's just a fairy tale.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:19 am to
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I guess you haven't been around here and read any of the stuff leftists post every time a Christian, conservative, or republican dies, have you? Not a thing that has been said in this thread comes anywhere close to the complete contempt, and utter shittiness that leftists display every time. So take your disappointment, and outrage, and disgust, and shove it right up your arse.


You believe this?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46862 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:20 am to
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What a simplistic, sophomoric, juvenile and spiteful view of reality you have.
What matters is if my view of reality is true or not. Whether the truth is "simplistic, sophomoric, juvenile and spiteful" in your opinion doesn't matter. I'll say this, though, that my belief is not spiteful. I don't wish harm towards him or anyone else. I'm coming at this from a place of pity, not hatred or malice.

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If God is love and capable of unlimited love, why would he spite someone for simply not believing?
One word: justice. It's not spite, but justice. God made the law and we all break the law. The way God's love and justice exists simultaneously in allowing anyone to be saved is by God punishing Jesus--His own perfectly sinless son--instead of us, if we trust in that sacrifice to reconcile us to God. We have a way out and it's why it's so important for people to hear the Gospel and believe it. God's love is manifested in Jesus. People reject that expression of love and then complain that God isn't loving.

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If he truly loved his creation (his children) he would simply demonstrate the truths upon a person's death. That is love. That is nurturing. That is being a good parent. My GOD is a good parent. Your GOD sucks at parenting. GROW UP.
A good parent chides their children when they disobey so that they can learn how to act rightly in the world. God does that to us through trials and tribulations while we are alive. When we die, the time for parental lessons is over. God "parents" us in life and shows His love towards us while we live.

God is love but He has other characteristics, too.
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:20 am to
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Frankly, I'm kind of tired of having to fend off this kind of belief system


and even though you "believe" this, Jesus still loves you
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:21 am to
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You believe this?


In a thread that was derailed almost immediately by a completely unwarranted religious post meant to shite on a dead handicapped man.

Mean ole atheists...
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:22 am to
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The purpose of the eyewitness accounts are to get the facts of their personal relationships with someone consistent. Their spiritual “purpose” has no bearing on me. I use their accounts as a true north of accuracy about the historic values of the stories.


If you are looking for information about the historical Jesus the Gospels are not an ideal source. While they may be historically accurate, they are not creating a historical portrait.

But how is it inconsistent to tell different non-contradicting stories about the same person? None of the gospel writers attempted to write an exhaustive narrative on the life of Christ. Each is giving a snapshot of his teachings that are of particular importance to their audience.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46862 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:23 am to
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What's actually sad is the fact that Hawking devoted his life to learning the intricacies of the Universe and attempting to teach them to people in easy to understand ways, and you remain fixated on a make believe red devil with a pitchfork who tortures sinners.
I said nothing about the devil.

What I'm "fixated" on is the truth that transcends anything Hawking did on earth. Hawking spent his entire life trying to understand the universe but rejected the one who created it. He sought for truth everywhere except from the source of all truth. I pity him.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:23 am to
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and even though you "believe" this, Jesus still loves you


And the last time I spoke with Santa Clause...he told me to tell you to stop jerking off. It bums him out.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:23 am to
You get the judgmental merit badge too. Y'all are awesome at finding fault with other people.
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:23 am to
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FooManChoo


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