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re: Stephen Hawking Dead - Hawking Radiation Proves Existence of God
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:24 am to BlackAdam
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:24 am to BlackAdam
quote:divine virgin birth is literally the only thing that makes Jesus noteworthy in any way, its the entire foundation of Christianity. without it he's just a guy.
The virgin birth was not critical to Mark and John's purpose.
and yet the letters from Paul, the oldest work in the NT and our first source for Jesus, makes no mention of it. he never talks about any miracles or coming back from the dead either.
Mark was the first gospel written, and he never mentions the divine birth either.
Matthew and Luke were written next, and they were based on Mark, he was their primary source, yet they do mention the divine birth even though he didnt.
John was written last, and he did not use Mark as the primary source, and now were back to no mention of the divine birth.
all you have to do is read Paul, Mark, Matthew and Luke in the order they were written and you can basically watch the polish be applied, you can watch Jesus become more and more god-like with each revision, as if they were creating a superhero and had to hype him up.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:25 am to shinerfan
quote:What's ironic is that the people commanding those to be burned were mostly pretending to believe, themselves.
Mostly because y'all burned people alive if they didn't pretend to believe.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:25 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Because our lives are effected daily by a belief which we find to be mythology.
Can you give me just one instance of Christianity affecting your life? Did somebody make you pray? Did somebody make you believe in Jesus? How can a belief someone has affect you?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:26 am to FooManChoo
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Hawking spent his entire life trying to understand the universe but rejected the one who created it. He sought for truth everywhere except from the source of all truth. I pity him.
You know who would say the same thing? This assclown...
Keep pretending that similarity is not an issue, or that even though you both think the same thing your beliefs are completely antithetical to each other. No worries, because you're 100% right and he's 100% wrong though, so that's good.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:29 am to TigerGman
quote:Paul answers this question in Romans 9:19-24
Why would he bother to create a flawed being just so he could condemned them to hell for eternity?
quote:
You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:29 am to TrueTiger
What do you mean by the term “free will”? What is it?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:30 am to rds dc
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:30 am to Walkthedawg
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You mean like when a gay couple sues a baker for not baking their cake?
No, not at all like that.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:30 am to Salmon
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like this?
Actually, nothing like that. An honest opinion expressed without strings of vile personal accusations has no similarity with the expressions of the angry athiests....in fact, if that is supposed to show the "anger"..you fell short.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:30 am to Lg
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Can you give me just one instance of Christianity affecting your life?
I live in a society where if you're an open atheist you almost certainly can not even be elected city councilman, and you're going to waste my time suggesting I list the various ways in which Christianity or more generally religious faith effects my life?
Surely you can't be so blinded by your own belief system to not see that it envelops all of our society in one form or another? In fact, even the tiniest push back from atheists gets the faithful wailing at the top of their lungs, despite currently holding nearly 100% of all elected seats in America.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:31 am to MastrShake
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you do realize he never actually said that, right? it shouldn't be in quotes, its not a quote, its something someone made up, dozens or even hundreds of years after the fact, and then changed and edited hundreds of times before you ever read it.
you could write the entire passage backwards and the odds would be just as good that jesus had said that.
No, Jesus actually did say that. Just like everything else in the Bible. It wasn't "made up". Jesus is real...he actually lived and died for our sins. He is the son of God.
It is very unfortunate that the communistic, Illuminati, lame stream media has control over all outlets of media, education and entertainment to shove this false propaganda down our throats.
Stay strong in your belief.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:31 am to TheIndulger
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In a memorial thread, Christians feel the need to discount one of the world’s great minds by stating that he is in hell now, and the atheists are the ones with the problem?
Which came first?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:32 am to FooManChoo
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You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God?
Hooray! Idiotic divine command theory again.
So the answer isn't a rational or reasonable one. it's just Paul telling the questioner to shut the frick up and do as he's told.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:33 am to Dale51
texag being a douche came first.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:35 am to Dale51
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Which came first?
Posts 4 and 5 of this thread.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:36 am to FooManChoo
quote:yeah the 9/11 hijackers were faking it too, they were actually all Lutheran.
What's ironic is that the people commanding those to be burned were mostly pretending to believe, themselves.
(see how easy this is?)
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:36 am to RCDfan1950
quote:The Bible teaches that your works determine how good or bad your place in Heaven or Hell is but they do not determine which place you go. The Bible teaches only faith alone in Jesus Christ will open the doors of Heaven for an individual. Hawking rejected Christ and therefore He is most likely in Hell right now, suffering tortures that I can't even imagine. That is a good reason to be sad for him.
If Biblical Principle is true, then Hawking will - like we all - move into another life wherein We will "be rewarded according to their works". "He that seweth sparingly...He that seweth bountifully...". I.e. the next life will be a scenario wherein each Individual assumes a life tailored exactly according to their former life beliefs and actions. "Many mansions"...for Hawking, likely Parallel Universes. That is Justice. And no reason to be sad.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:36 am to IllegalPete
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By tomorrow nobody will remember his name
You are out of your mind entirely. He wrote A brief history of time and The Universe in a Nutshell, both very famous books read by nerds and laymen alike.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:37 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:the thread title, really
Posts 4 and 5 of this thread.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:37 am to dawgfan24348
quote:How inclusive of you.
frick off with your religious bullshite
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