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re: State of Missouri doesn’t like home grown pickles & green beans
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:39 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:39 am to GatorOnAnIsland
quote:Where do you get these home grown pickle seeds? Kentucky Blue Wonder for the pole beans but pickle seeds are new to me. Do they come in both sweet and dill?
State of Missouri doesn’t like home grown pickles & green beans
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:47 am to captainFid
What is the reason for his recent departure? I know what I get banned for....usually before it happens. 
SFP rarely commits any of those sins, so, someone must have really set him off. I would like to shake that guy/gal's hand and buy them an adult beverage of their choice.
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SFP rarely commits any of those sins, so, someone must have really set him off. I would like to shake that guy/gal's hand and buy them an adult beverage of their choice.
??
Posted on 8/16/26 at 7:50 am to roadGator
yeah here's the thing jethro, actual pickles are fermented, with brine in a process that can take 3 months to a year, quick pickles which are brined while fresh under refrigeration (think vlasic pickles) must remain refrigerated that's why you buy them in your grocers refrigerated section.
if you don't adhere to one of these processes you can grow salmonellae
but he11 son you can eat those pickles, in fact have two!
if you don't adhere to one of these processes you can grow salmonellae
but he11 son you can eat those pickles, in fact have two!
Posted on 8/16/26 at 8:26 am to Houag80
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What is the reason for his recent departure? I know what I get banned for....usually before it happens.
SFP rarely commits any of those sins, so, someone must have really set him off. I would like to shake that guy/gal's hand and buy them an adult beverage of their choice.
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I do not know the reasons either... I 'read' it was for derailing a stickied thread. [didn't know that was a fireable offense, if so].
You are correct, though. He rarely commits any of those sins. Trolling? one of the best. I feel sorry for his clients and family... though it may make a better lawyer out of him, staying off the site.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 8:32 am to Stealth Matrix
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I'd rather eat this random dude's beans than the canned beans that comes from govt-certified corporate factories.
That’s the point: they can’t have you with choices.
It’s why Florida blew the lid on Covid, people saw Florida go back to living without consequence and the totalitarian charade fell apart.
You see this stuff along with the flock cameras and it’s tough not to feel like the agenda 2030 stuff is happening despite Trump and the GOP being in power.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 9:00 am to GatorOnAnIsland
It seems that a civilizational axiom is becoming apparent. The more powerful, complex and ‘successful’ (think population) that a society becomes, the more CONTROL that the underlying societal institutions of governance MUST become. Essentially, said population growth is based on the increase of the weaker in society, which growth would otherwise not exist in a society with less economic power to distribute societal, morality-based largesse to the weak.
By the same metric, exponential increase in the weaker demographic of society is obviously problematic, especially minus Qualified Subsidization. And especially if a society is Democratic. And built on Individual Freedom. For all. As the weak will vote themselves ‘equal’ (DEI) shares of the GNP based on morality as opposed to merit. I.e., “social justice “.
New Axiom : Powerful societies must adopt CONTROL Mechanisms relative to the increase in both the weaker individual demographic and that of predatory stronger demographics as well. Lest systematic dysfunction result in collapse.
Bottom line: CONTROL
It’s coming. Very interesting time.
By the same metric, exponential increase in the weaker demographic of society is obviously problematic, especially minus Qualified Subsidization. And especially if a society is Democratic. And built on Individual Freedom. For all. As the weak will vote themselves ‘equal’ (DEI) shares of the GNP based on morality as opposed to merit. I.e., “social justice “.
New Axiom : Powerful societies must adopt CONTROL Mechanisms relative to the increase in both the weaker individual demographic and that of predatory stronger demographics as well. Lest systematic dysfunction result in collapse.
Bottom line: CONTROL
It’s coming. Very interesting time.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 9:08 am to HagaDaga
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Missouri is an odd state.
Not disputing that, but in this case roughly half the states in the US have similar laws to prevent botulism poisoning in low acid foods.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 9:39 am to GatorOnAnIsland
In alabama, you go to the extention office, get a free growers permit, and it allows you to sell whatever you grow, anywhere you want to sell it, amd it is a crime for anyone, including law enforcement, to attempt to impede you in any way
Posted on 8/16/26 at 9:47 am to HagaDaga
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Missouri is an odd state. Has a create foundational mindset, but at the same time they have made some decisions lately that can destroy the state. It could eventually turn into a lefty Illinois like state.
I lived in Missouri for a while, and I enjoyed my time there. What I learned is that there are two states: Missouri, and.Missoura.
This is an example of Missouri messing with Missoura. Missouri includes St. Louis, KC, and Colombia, and they are increasingly lost to the left.
Missoura includes the boot heel, Ozarks, and huge agricultural areas in the rest of the state. There are a lot of damn good people who live there, lots of farmers, liberty-minded people, and other good folks.
The problem is that Missouri controls all those state agencies, and one gets the impression that they take great pleasure in crapping on Missoura.
Farming is hard. Bureaucrats should get the hell out of the way and help farmers rather than constantly harassing and threatening them. That’s the official policy in my state, and in my experience so far, that’s been true.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 9:50 am to Houag80
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It is the leadership, not the people. Missouri has some of the finest folks in America. Unfortunately, they keep getting hoodwinked by the people they are electing to serve.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, ….
I agree, good folks in MO. but perhaps they need to learn their candidates better prior to voting.
(And they are hardly alone among states in that respect.)
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:23 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Grew up on a farm in NW Missouri. The family had a large garden down below the house. My aunt used to can all kinds of veggies, and store them in the celler. Including green beans and pickles. Along with beets, tomatoes, pretty much anything that could go into a sealed jar for storage.
It's pretty much exactly how the older generations of farmers lived in that town.
So what's next? They gonna come after all the people selling backyard laid eggs now?
It's pretty much exactly how the older generations of farmers lived in that town.
So what's next? They gonna come after all the people selling backyard laid eggs now?
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:31 am to captainFid
Oh, I am sure he has found some site in the interim....to disseminate his vast knowledge.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:45 am to Great Plains Drifter
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I agree, good folks in MO. but perhaps they need to learn their candidates better prior to voting.
Mike Parson was a governor that I respected. I was sad that he was term limited. There were several 2a issues that he'd listened to, and tried to push thru the state Senate.
But damned blue bastions!
AG Andrew Baily was a man that I very sorely wish had stayed with us. That man did a lot for 2a, and he took the fight to the corrupt, Soros run STL justice system. Soros DA Kim whatever her name, and a derelict sheriff.
But yeah, the jerkwads coming out of the blue areas of the state need to be dealt with.
And then, there's Josh Hauley... Thune bootlicker.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:53 am to roadGator
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The St. Louis area and KC dominate politics though based on population.
Both of which are zoned heavily towards the Democrats. Particularly towards the black populations.
There's a lot that I love about KC, and a few things about STL. But the damn dem.influence here isn't one of them!
Let's also add that KC mayor and city council pushed our city as a LGBACDCHDTV refuge city, in stark contrast to MO.law.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 10:56 am to roadGator
The FDA isn't involved, dimbulb.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:01 am to Diamondawg
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Where do you get these home grown pickle seeds? Kentucky Blue Wonder for the pole beans but pickle seeds are new to me. Do they come in both sweet and dill?
Both types of pickles are made from cucumbers.
The difference is in how you prepare the cucumbers.
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:20 am to HagaDaga
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Legal Abortion, weed, gambling aren't positives for a stable society.
The issue for legalizing abortion came up on the same ballot as the presidential vote. As well as banning Ranked Choice Voting and another measure preventing illegals voting.
The amount of feminists standing in that poll line, to vote for abortion and Kamala was absolutely insane! So many arguments went on in that line, between church groups and abortionists!
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:30 am to GatorOnAnIsland
He should claim to be Amish.
Posted on 8/16/26 at 11:56 am to Feelthebarn
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In alabama, you go to the extention office, get a free growers permit, and it allows you to sell whatever you grow, anywhere you want to sell it
This isn't entirely true with value added products like, jams and jellies, pickles and other canned goods, and baked goods. For that, you are required to take a food safety course and renew it every three years. Everything you sell has to have a label and have a complete ingredients list. You also can't sell any meat or poultry or dairy products or anything that requires refrigeration.
I'm not saying this to be contrary, but for the sake of clarity. Alabama has cottage food laws just as many other states, and it will enforce them if need be. The laws change when you get into the food prep business. Raw vegetables from your truck patch? Meh......not much there in the way of laws.
This post was edited on 8/16/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:56 pm to Feelthebarn
This is what I got back when I asked Google about what you said:
quote:
The quote you shared is mostly a myth mixed with a few grains of legal truth.
While parts of it accurately describe the benefits of the permit, the claims about selling "whatever you want" and it being a "crime for law enforcement to impede you" are entirely false.
What is True:
It is free and from the Extension Office: You do visit your local Alabama Cooperative Extension System office in person to obtain an Alabama Growers Permit for free.
No tax or business license fees: The permit acts as a powerful marketing tool that allows you to sell directly to consumers without paying municipal business license fees or state sales tax.
Sell across the state: It gives you the legal right to sell your goods at roadside stands, festivals, and farmers' markets anywhere in the state of Alabama.
What is False (The Myth) You cannot sell "whatever you grow."
The permit strictly covers raw, unprocessed agricultural commodities. You can only sell fresh fruits, vegetables, table eggs, and ornamental plants (if you've raised them for over two weeks).
Value-added foods are strictly excluded: You cannot use this permit to sell processed or "value-added" items like meats, breads, jams, jellies, or—bringing it back to our earlier topic—pickles and green beans. Those still require strict adherence to Alabama’s specific cottage food or commercial health codes.
It is NOT a crime for law enforcement to stop you: There is no law in Alabama making it a crime for police, health inspectors, or city officials to "impede" a permit holder.
Law enforcement and local authorities absolutely have the right to inspect your stand, check your ID, verify that you actually grew the food yourself, and shut you down if you are violating local zoning laws, blocking traffic, or trying to sell unapproved foods.
Where did this rumor come from? This viral idea stems from a common misunderstanding of Sovereign Citizen mythology or a massive exaggeration of Right-to-Farm laws. While Alabama highly protects its farmers from paying double taxes and unnecessary city fees when selling their own crops, farmers are still fully subject to state laws, health department regulations, and local police authority.
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